No TIme for Sergeants

2014-05-24 Thread Mike
Just saw a promo on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) that they are going to show the 
classic No Time for Sergeants movie Sunday night at 8.  After that they are 
showing Onionhead, another great Andy movie where he joins the Coast Guard.   
Just a heads up for those interested because -- Mayberry is:  SHARING

Mike Peacock
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Frances Bavier's marriage

2014-05-24 Thread Paul Mulik
A couple of weeks ago the topic came up about whether three specific actresses 
from TAGS (Frances Bavier, Aneta Corsaut, and Betty Lynn) had ever been married.

I've been doing some checking on Frances' history and the results are sort of a 
mixed bag.  We know for certain that she moved to Siler City after retiring 
from acting and became a recluse, living in a big old house with 15 cats (I 
guess that's better than hermitizing oneself in a cave with chipmunks and 
squirrels).  I found statements online from someone who claimed to work for her 
there in Siler City, who insisted that she was once married briefly to an actor.

Then I remembered that I had an old issue of Cats Magazine from March 1990 
(three months after her death) with a feature story on Aunt Bea (sic) and her 
many cats.  Most of the article was about finding homes for all of the cats, 
but it did have a lot of information about Frances herself, including the 
following: 

After graduating in 1925, Bavier joined a traveling theater group that toured 
the Midwest.  She was married in 1928, but her marriage ended five years later 
in a conflict over career ambitions.

Another source gave the name of her husband as Russell Carpenter, a career 
military man, and according to this source it seems they separated but never 
actually divorced, and that she regularly sent him money for many years after 
the split.  If this is true, then they probably met while she was performing 
with the USO, but the part about her sending money seems unlikely to me.

So, perhaps at least SOME of all this info is true.  Here is where I would like 
some help.  Maybe we can't get ahold of those lovely ladies from the Women's 
Historical Society who were trying to track down Nathan Tibbs' descendant, but 
there must be several folks here in our chapter who do genealogical research.  
If anybody subscribes to one of those services that grants access to those huge 
databases full of marriage records, please search 1928 or thereabouts for the 
names Frances Bavier and Russell Carpenter and see if anything comes up. Since 
she was born in New York that's as good a place as any to start.

Paul Mulik
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Mayberry is....

2014-05-24 Thread Danny Williams
Mayberry is Warm  Fuzzy!

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Mayberry is

2014-05-24 Thread Bruce Bridges
Mayberry is family and friends !!
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ducks

2014-05-24 Thread jlj9675

Thanks Ken for sharing that video; just precious!
Aunt Bee of Orlando

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Mayberry moment

2014-05-24 Thread jlj9675
I had a Mayberry moment recently in moving up the road about 15 miles. I had 
my handyman unload my pistol (kept on my nightstand) in order to transport 
it up here. When we got here and I went to re-load it, he handed me one 
bullet and said Here Barney. I about fell off my chair!
Aunt Bee of Orlando 



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Francis/Frances Bavier and Marriage

2014-05-24 Thread LGillum


On 5/24/2014 10:00 AM, wbmutbb-requ...@wbmutbb.com wrote:

So, perhaps at least SOME of all this info is true.  Here is where I would like 
some help.  Maybe we can't get ahold of those lovely ladies from the Women's 
Historical Society who were trying to track down Nathan Tibbs' descendant, but 
there must be several folks here in our chapter who do genealogical research 
 please search 1928 or thereabouts for the names Frances Bavier and Russell 
Carpenter and see if anything comes up. Since she was born in New York that's 
as good a place as any to start.
Paul, I'd like to see that CATS Magazine and learn their source of 
information.  So far, I've come up with zilch when it comes to Frances 
Bavier's marriage. (The given name is alternately spelled Francis and 
Frances in records.) I've scoured marriage records readily available 
and have found nothing. I've opened 6 or 7 Bavier family trees, but none 
with any marriage information for Frances. One of these family trees 
states, Never married, and the others are simply mute on the subject.


I've found Frances Bavier in census records for 1910, 1920, and 1930, as 
well as the Social Security Death Index. Frances Elizabeth Bavier was 
born 14 December 1902 in New York City, and, as we all know, she died 6 
December 1989 in Siler City, Chatham, North Carolina. Her father was 
Charles Samuel Bavier (1850-1920) and her mother was Mary S. Birmingham 
(1870 - ?). In the 1910 census, she was living at 7 years of age in 
Manhattan, Ward 17, NYNY. Her father was then 51, her mother 40, her 
sister Marjorie was 17, her brother Charles A. was 12, and there were 
also two Birmingham children listed: Anna Birmingham 21, and Joseph 
Birmingham 15.


In the 1920 census Frances is 17 and the Bavier family was living in 
Manhattan, Assembly District 7, NYNY. The head of the household was 
still her father, Chas S. Bavier 69. Mother Mary Birmingham has 
disappeared from record by this date. In the 1930 census, Frances is 25 
and the head of household is now her sister Margaret, age 40. The two of 
them were living at this time in Queens, New York.


I attempted a short search of the Russell Carpenter and J. Russell 
Carpenter you suggested, also with no luck. When I plug in dates and 
locations, I find several matching this name, but they all have other 
wives. The 1940 census shows James Russell Carpenter of New York as a 
widow, so this doesn't fit if you believe Frances married in 1928. And 
the search goes on . . . . If better information is found, I'll relay it 
to you.


Larry in CO


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Re: WBMUTBB Digest, Vol 15, Issue 154

2014-05-24 Thread Marguerite
The quote was from Andy and he told Barney that's real democratic of you, 
meaning non prejudicial, but Barney replied, How I vote brother is my 
business.

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