Hi Mark,
I'm on holiday now until the 13th of April. When I get back I'll continue
working on the gluon package. There is not much to document there, it's
quite straightforward. If you want to help you could start with developing
the setup.py file for the gluon module. You can find the
Hi Dima,
I have to plan my work for the coming weeks.
Because I was wondering when you could need some help.
Because when there is a concrete plan,
I could try to start a project at my school.
Which could give this project a development boost.
We could also start a document on google docs.
To
On Mar 23, 1:15 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
The main feature of web2py is that appliances are data and are
treated as such. Consider a CMS app that wants to install, for
example, a plugin. A plugin contains code and needs to be installable
at runtime. The plugin may also
I'll see both problems and another solution to work around this.
We could install web2py into /usr/ directories with apt.
Then create a startup script that makes a copy of web2py and the
web2py applications that are installed trough apt to the /var folder.
A so called runtime version of web2py.
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark Breedveld
m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
I'll see both problems and another solution to work around this.
We could install web2py into /usr/ directories with apt.
Then create a startup script that makes a copy of web2py and the
web2py
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark Breedveld
m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
I'll see both
Hi Kuba,
Your indeed right that web2py is a higher application.
So we could also decide not to pack any web2py applications into the
apt repository.
This is the most easy solution. Single user web2py server.
And to make it according the guidelines, we make a startup script that
create a runtime
Hi Mark,
And I want to make a clear separation in the repo.
Web2py applications for production use are put in the usr folder.
And copied and protected by a startup script.
For example you could take the write right from /controllers/models/views
And store static and upload under var
I am not sure I understand. If I understand you are proposing:
1) installing web2py into /usr/ as it (it will not run there)
2) provide a script to allow users to make a copy of what is needed
for runtime (inluding applications/)
3) allow the user to run from the folder where files have been
I am not sure I understand. If I understand you are proposing:
1) installing web2py into /usr/ as it (it will not run there)
2) provide a script to allow users to make a copy of what is needed
for runtime (inluding applications/)
3) allow the user to run from the folder where files have
I do not have any object. I think I need more details to understand it
better. I think you should give it a shot and we'll see later if we
find any problem.
On Mar 23, 12:37 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote:
I am not sure I understand. If I understand you are proposing:
1) installing
On Mar 23, 6:00 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
I do not have any object. I think I need more details to understand it
better. I think you should give it a shot and we'll see later if we
find any problem.
I'm not very happy about this, I would prefer to reach an agreement
before I
I understand. You do not have to develop the all thing. Can you show a
pseudcode example of what the script would do?
On Mar 23, 1:40 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:00 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
I do not have any object. I think I need more details to
i'm looking forward to your design plan.
It sounds good and i'm confident that it will.
regards
Mark Breedveld,
On Mar 23, 7:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
I understand. You do not have to develop the all thing. Can you show a
pseudcode example of what the script would do?
On Mar 22, 12:18 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
How would you propose web2py to write sql.log, or its .table files
used in migrations for that matter?
The debian packaging rules are quite strict about it, the log files
should go to /var/log, transient runtime files go to
phppgadmin seems to in /users/share/ and it looks to me everything is
in there.
On Mar 22, 7:45 am, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:18 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
How would you propose web2py to write sql.log, or its .table files
used in migrations for
On Mar 22, 2:14 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
phppgadmin seems to in /users/share/ and it looks to me everything is
in there.
I'm not very familiar with phppgadmin, but from the first look it does
not produce any log files, nor does it have any state which has to be
preserved
?
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Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Mark,
The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant.
Packaging
Barsky
Verzonden: zondag 21 maart 2010 17:32
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Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Mark,
The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant.
Packaging individual applications is not easy either, there is another
problem I forgot to mention
Hi Mark,
The First one is to create a user web2py and make it a member of www-data.
And put the application in the home folder which will work.
No, that would not work at all. Applications are not allowed to
install anything under /home. In fact, the whole /home directory does
not have to
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Hi Mark,
The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant.
Packaging individual
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Hi Mark,
The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant.
Packaging individual applications is not easy either, there is another
But the web2py app have to be modified via admin therefore I do not
think we can avoid putting them in var.
I think we would have to disable this feature for pre-packaged
applications. That makes sense to me - only the package manager should
be allowed to change the content of a debian package.
There are two type of apps:
the core, web2py itself
applications that runs in the web2py environment. Those have to be
editable. This is a hard case, since web2py is kind of an OS itself,
this should be solved with /var.
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On Mar 22, 5:33 pm, Kuba Kucharski kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two type of apps:
the core, web2py itself
applications that runs in the web2py environment. Those have to be
editable. This is a hard case, since web2py is kind of an OS itself,
this should be solved with /var.
work arounds.
My excuse for putting things in a hurry.
Regards,
Mark Breedveld,
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On Mar 22, 6:28 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
You can bytecode compile hem but you cannot break the deplyment
mechanism. Even bytecode compiled apps must be under a writable
applications, therefore under /vars/
The *.pyc file are not treated as runtime data in Debian. All python
(like moovidia in its early day), but
this should our last option...
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You
web2py application are higher level. Like php scripts in www
directory. They are edtable. They are apps within web2py. They are
isolated and independent. They sometimes contain sqlite data inside.
web2py is about user-developers. So in some way applications are user
data. Applying default security
: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
You can bytecode compile hem but you cannot break the deplyment
mechanism. Even bytecode compiled apps must be under a writable
applications, therefore under /vars/
On Mar 22, 1:20 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thought
yes, there may be no home in Debian, but the proper user always have
some directory assigned in /etc/passwd
mysql:x:116:122:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false
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yes, there may be no home in Debian, but the proper user always have
some directory assigned in /etc/passwd
mysql:x:116:122:MySQL
So /var/www..
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- Where to put web2py.py? //Because this aint user data, but the
application/webserver
Do not know
Where would you put php files? I have seen them in /var/www/
Massimo,
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but any script you might've seen in /var/
www was not under Debian package control, it was installed there
manually by the administrator. All php files are also installed under /
usr. If you try
Hi Mark,
Summary
- The application under /var/web2py
I disagree. Only the runtime data should go to /var, the code should
stay under /usr (and it should be immutable). I presume we are still
talking about pre-packaged applications, right? Nothing will stop
individual users from starting their
The main feature of web2py is that appliances are data and are
treated as such. Consider a CMS app that wants to install, for
example, a plugin. A plugin contains code and needs to be installable
at runtime. The plugin may also modify other application files (such
as replace a layout or a model).
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:01:43AM -0700, Mark Breedveld wrote:
The web2py community is searching help on debian / ubuntu packaging.
Mark,
I'll see what I can do, but it's not that straightforward. There is no clear
separation in web2py between the user code and the library code. Take, for
On Mar 20, 5:01 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
The web2py community is searching help on debian / ubuntu packaging.
The are concrete plans to deploy web2py as Turnkey Appliance.
Mark,
I'll see what I can do, although it might be not straightforward.
There is no clear
Thank you for your reply.
Aldo my first reply suggested that I wanted to seperate the admin app.
This not my intention.
With web2py-appname.deb was for verified user apps from web2py.com.
But still your interpretation of it ain't an wrong idee.
For securite and vps reasons/situations it's
On Mar 21, 2:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
This would break automatic updates
Of course it will. The only way to update a debian package is through
the debian packaging mechanism, i.e, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, etc.
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Hi Mark,
The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant.
Packaging individual applications is not easy either, there is another
problem I forgot to mention. Currently web2py assumes that it has
write permissions for the whole web2py directories (including
subdirectories). It
How would you propose web2py to write sql.log, or its .table files
used in migrations for that matter?
-Thadeus
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote:
kaging individual applications is not easy either, there is another
problem I forgot to mention. Currently
Is there anything in the debian packaging mechanism that is
inconsistent with the current web2py folder structure?
As I see it, this just a matter of choosing where to put the files (I
say /home/www-data/web2py).
In principle it is possible to separate applications. This cannot
cohexist with
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