Re: [webkit-dev] Why does Ahem have different vertical metrics in Qt?

2011-02-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
I vaguely remember Qt folks mentioning that there's a font-related bug in Qt DRT. - Ryosuke On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Dan Bernstein wrote: > In an attempt to give layout tests consistent results across platforms, I > ofter use the Ahem font. However, I’ve noticed that Qt still requires >

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Darin Adler
This thread is wrong for webkit-dev. The discussion obliquely related to WebKit development and you are not yet contributors to the WebKit project yet. Could you please find somewhere else to discuss this? -- Darin ___ webkit-dev mailing list webk

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Silvio Ventres
Let's take each argument apart one by one: 1. If the plugin, W3 Total Cache for WordPress, by itself moves the script loads after the main content, there will be no visible change using heuristic. 1a. In the plugin installation guide, the developers advise on either using a CDN or "static.*" subd

Re: [webkit-dev] code review tool changes

2011-02-08 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Russell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Kenneth Russell wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Ojan Vafai wrote: > >> There's been a slew of changes to the code review tool. It's probably a > good > >> time to send a summary now that I don't

Re: [webkit-dev] code review tool changes

2011-02-08 Thread Kenneth Russell
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Kenneth Russell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Ojan Vafai wrote: >> There's been a slew of changes to the code review tool. It's probably a good >> time to send a summary now that I don't intend to add significant new >> features. >> -Side-by-side diffs:

[webkit-dev] Why does Ahem have different vertical metrics in Qt?

2011-02-08 Thread Dan Bernstein
In an attempt to give layout tests consistent results across platforms, I ofter use the Ahem font. However, I’ve noticed that Qt still requires platform-specific results when I do that. One recent example is fast/dynamic/unicode-bidi.html $ diff -u LayoutTests/platform/qt/fast/dynamic/unicode-b

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Jerry Seeger
Sorry - the WordPress plugin is W3 Total Cache, not W3 Super Cache. I always get those names scrambled. Jerry On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jerry Seeger wrote: > I'm still fiddling with the scripts on muddledramblings.com after a redesign, > but I intend to move static resources to a cookieless

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Jerry Seeger
I'm still fiddling with the scripts on muddledramblings.com after a redesign, but I intend to move static resources to a cookieless domain to improve performance. This is a petty common tactic - sort of a poor man's CDN. The key is that I can decide to do this. (Yes, I could rearrange my site an

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Silvio Ventres
Indeed, the test case just shows the general problem. It should be changed to include scripts/css sourced from different places: same-subdomain, same-domain, cross-domain, CDN. Of course, right now there will be no difference between those. The bug you filed considers the same problem from another

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Silvio Ventres
Do you have any example of scripts or css that are externally sourced, and where developer cares to reasonably optimize the web page? The main use case of such external scripts currently is ads and statistics gatherers for analysis. This, arguably, is not critical content that the user is intereste

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Jerry Seeger
My argument is less "it's the Web developer's fault" than it is "the Web developer should have control." I am hardly a sophisticated Web developer but I have javascript from a different domain that must be loaded first and I have Google analytics, which I should load after the rest of the page

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Tony Gentilcore
Your test case isn't really about prioritization. The HTML5 spec defines very specifically when parsing must stop. The two main cases are: 1. Waiting for an external script to download 2. Waiting for an external stylesheet to download when any script block is reached In these cases, the parser doe

Re: [webkit-dev] Question regarding priorities of subresource content retrieval

2011-02-08 Thread Silvio Ventres
This argument - "web developer is to blame for choosing a slow ad/tracking/etc server" - is incorrect. Web developers in general do not have any control over the ad provider or, frankly, any other type of external functionality provider. Google Analytics being a good point in case, you would not wa