Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Glenn Adams
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.orgwrote:

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada 
 mario.pr...@samsung.com wrote:

  Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
 Deprecated.
  So, I have to wait the StyleBuilder Class to have a clear form.

 On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very useful
 as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
 class got deprecated[1].


 It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.


   Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.

 Me too.


 Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a regular
 contributor.

 The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
 time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
 provide feedback to the W3C working group.
 I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
 prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
 it turns out the experiment is not successful.


I wouldn't characterize the nav-* properties as experimental, given their
fairly widespread implementation among Television oriented profiles of
HTML/CSS, going back at least to 1999 [1]. See also specifications from
2001 and 2003 [2][3].

As such, it seems somewhat questionable to use a -webkit- prefix.

[1]
http://www.arib.or.jp/english/html/overview/archives/br/ARIB_STD-B24-2_2of2_v5.1_E1.pdf

[2] http://www.atsc.org/cms/standards/a100/a_100_2.pdf
[3]
http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/digital-media/9780240806662/15-building-applications-with-html/s235_xhtml
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Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:


 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.orgwrote:

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada 
 mario.pr...@samsung.com wrote:

  Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
 Deprecated.
  So, I have to wait the StyleBuilder Class to have a clear form.

 On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very
 useful
 as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
 class got deprecated[1].


 It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.


   Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.

 Me too.


 Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a
 regular contributor.

 The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
 time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
 provide feedback to the W3C working group.
 I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
 prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
 it turns out the experiment is not successful.


 I wouldn't characterize the nav-* properties as experimental, given their
 fairly widespread implementation among Television oriented profiles of
 HTML/CSS, going back at least to 1999 [1]. See also specifications from
 2001 and 2003 [2][3].

 As such, it seems somewhat questionable to use a -webkit- prefix.


If we're not prefixing it, then it's very important for the initial
implementation to pass all compatibility tests W3C and/or it matches other
vendors' implementations.

- R. Niwa
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Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
El vie, 26-07-2013 a las 20:07 -0700, Benjamin Poulain escribió:
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada 
 mario.pr...@samsung.com wrote:
 
   Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name Deprecated.
   So, I have to wait the StyleBuilder Class to have a clear form.
 
  On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very useful
  as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
  class got deprecated[1].
 
 
 It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
 
 
   Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.
 
  Me too.
 
 
 Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a regular
 contributor.

Mario has volunteered to maintain this feature, or do you really mean
Mario is not a regular contributor?

 The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
 time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
 provide feedback to the W3C working group.
 I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
 prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
 it turns out the experiment is not successful.
 
 Benjamin
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada
 mario.pr...@samsung.com wrote:
  Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
 Deprecated.
  So, I have to wait the StyleBuilder Class to have a clear
 form.
 
 
 On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be
 very useful
 as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit
 where this
 class got deprecated[1].
 
 
 It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
  
  Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this
 discussion.
 
 
 Me too.
 
 
 Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a
 regular contributor.
 
 
 The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really
 invest time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with
 this and provide feedback to the W3C working group.
 I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the
 -webkit- prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to
 remove it if it turns out the experiment is not successful.
 
 
 Benjamin
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Saturday 27 July 2013, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
 On Friday 26 July 2013, Anders Carlsson wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
  when Oliver landed his “let’s break everything” patches in JSC the other
  day, I noticed that some of the follow-up build fixes by other ports were
  removing use of C++11 features (mainly nullptr).
  
  Are there any ports that aren’t building as C++11? If so, why not?
 
 Yes, and because C++11 is not supported on all the platforms we support. We
 don't all have the option to not care about the platforms of a certain
 fruit themed vendor's 1 or 2 year old operating systems.
 
I apologize for that comment. It was not meant seriously, and is much more 
antagonizing than funny, so please forget I ever wrote that.

On a serious note, we have nothing blocking activating C++11 in the Qt port of 
WebKit. I prepared WTF and WebCore for C++11 with GCC months ago, and we 
dropped support for platforms where it isn't available from support when C++11 
became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the Qt 
MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old. 

Regards
`Allan
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Gergely Kis
Hi,

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com 
wrote:
 became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the Qt
 MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.

The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.

Best Regards,
Gergely
the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Oliver Hunt
So wait, is everyone using C++11 now?

I dream of using auto…

:-D

On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Gergely Kis gerg...@homejinni.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com 
 wrote:
 became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the 
 Qt
 MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.
 
 The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
 ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.
 
 Best Regards,
 Gergely
 the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Brent Fulgham
We can support auto and move semantics.  We cannot support ranged iterators 
until VS2012.

But at least it's a step in the right direction...

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 28, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:

 So wait, is everyone using C++11 now?
 
 I dream of using auto…
 
 :-D
 
 On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Gergely Kis gerg...@homejinni.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com 
 wrote:
 became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the 
 Qt
 MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.
 The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
 ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.
 
 Best Regards,
 Gergely
 the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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