[webkit-dev] LLINT Value Profiling

2012-11-29 Thread wingoog moon
Hi All! As I understand llint does value profiling for all instructions which have memory access. However in DFG during predictionPropegtion pass this profile results using only for function arguments and return value. Am I right?? If yes, is it possible to use this result to predict types for

Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

2012-11-29 Thread Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
2012/11/28 Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org: My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more easily move branches between the two. For my part, I've switched over to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so

Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

2012-11-29 Thread Gergely Kis
Hi, Actually we already made the transition to the current github commit ids, because github wanted to shut down our repository, if it is not a fork of the semi-official webkit repository. Of course we will be able to transition back to the git.webkit.org commit ids, when the transition was made.

[webkit-dev] Reminder: FOSDEM CrossDesktop DevRoom 2013 - Call for Talks

2012-11-29 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hello, The Call for Talks for the CrossDesktop DevRoom at FOSDEM 2013 is officially open and will close in two weeks (Dec 14th). WebKit is used by many frameworks for hybrid appliations, kind-of bridging the web and desktop worlds. Sure there is a lot to say. Please submit your talk proposals

Re: [webkit-dev] pointer events specification - first editors draft

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: I'm sympathetic to these concerns, but, unfortunately, I don't see any other path that leads to interoperability with Internet Explorer. Currently,

Re: [webkit-dev] LLINT Value Profiling

2012-11-29 Thread Filip Pizlo
No. The type predictions come in via Node::getHeapPrediction() for those nodes that were generated from bytecodes that had value profiles. The bytecode parser sets the heap prediction (see OpInfo() arguments to addToGraph()) and the prediction propagator propagates those heap predictions to

Re: [webkit-dev] pointer events specification - first editors draft

2012-11-29 Thread Benjamin Poulain
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: I would prefer WebKit to be wise and wait for either good use cases, or a better spec. In my view, the wise course of action is for all user agents to implement an interoperable set of input events so that authors don't

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: I have submitted a patch [1] to add main element support to webkit and would appreciate your consideration. You should also add a layout test. From an accessibility perspective, the main element is an easy win.

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: ARIA is used by very few authors, and those authors are, by and large, much more competent than average. ARIA therefore tends to be used to a much higher level of quality than most elements. Yet this is part of the problem. One

[webkit-dev] New web-exposed feature: ruby-position: {before, after}

2012-11-29 Thread Dan Bernstein
As specified in http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-css3-ruby-20110630/#rubypos, the ruby-position property takes four values: before, after, inter-character, and inline. In http://trac.webkit.org/r136142 I added a -webkit-ruby-position property and support for the before and after values (the former,

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
Snipping somewhat for brevity… On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Sites have been quite happily working with a skip past navigation link Happily? Begrudgingly? For what it's worth, landmark navigation should not be confused with skip nav links. Think of it more

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: role=main can achieve this, but sectioning elements take care of the other landmark roles, and it seems strange to have this be the odd one out. In my own judgment, this outweighs risk of misuse. I agree. On the other

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Robinson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: Snipping somewhat for brevity… This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not belong on the webkit-dev list, which is for coordinating the development of WebKit. Please take this over to

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:19 PM, James Robinson jam...@google.com wrote: This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not belong on the webkit-dev list, which is for coordinating the development of WebKit. Please take this over to whatwg@ or some other

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:33 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:19 PM, James Robinson jam...@google.com wrote: This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not belong on the webkit-dev list, which is for coordinating the development

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:33 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:19 PM, James Robinson jam...@google.com wrote: This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Alex Russell
My object is somewhat different. I think it's useful for the readability use-case (and the other proposed solutions are mostly bad jokes), but it doesn't strike me that this give you much default UI and doesn't plumb through any new low-level capability. In that vein, I wonder why it's not being

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: I don't see a harm in waiting another couple of weeks or months until standards discussion settles assuming that the main element doesn't become the longdesc of the next decade. Don't confuse the two. The argument over the

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: I don't see a harm in waiting another couple of weeks or months until standards discussion settles assuming that the main element doesn't become the

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: I don't see a harm in waiting another couple of weeks or months until standards discussion settles assuming that the main element doesn't become the

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Glenn Adams
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.orgwrote: Hello, WebKit! I plan to start landing the implementation of the HTMLTemplateElement (behind a compile flag). The spec is here: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/templates/index.html A

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.orgwrote: Hello, WebKit! I plan to start landing the implementation of the HTMLTemplateElement (behind a compile flag). The spec is here:

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Glenn Adams
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.orgwrote: Hello, WebKit! I plan to start landing the implementation of the

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: I don't see a harm in waiting another couple of weeks or months until standards

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.org wrote:

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.org wrote: Hello,

[webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Steve Faulkner
maciej wrote: The WHATWG has pretty clearly rejected the idea of the main element can you point to a clear rejection in any of the relevant threads on the WHATWG apart from hixies? I would suggest the WHATWG has general support for adding main, but I may not be understanding what is meant by

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Rafael Weinstein
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28,

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: maciej wrote: The WHATWG has pretty clearly rejected the idea of the main element can you point to a clear rejection in any of the relevant threads on the WHATWG apart from hixies? I would suggest the

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com, 2012-11-29 21:48 -0800: The WHATWG has pretty clearly rejected the idea of the main element I don't think that assertion's true. Yeah, Hixie rejected it. And has consistently rejected every time we've had this discussion come up in WHATWG fora over the years;

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi Maciej, thanks for the clarification. I would suggest that if, as in this case, Hixie rejects a feature without convincing the WHATWG community that the data, use cases etc do not support the introduction of a feature, then the WHATWG process is broken. regards SteveF On 30 November 2012

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I think discussing the merits of the whatwg process is probably off topic for this list. - Maciej On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maciej, thanks for the clarification. I would suggest that if, as in this case, Hixie rejects a feature

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com, 2012-11-29 22:18 -0800: I mean that by the whatwg process, if Hixie says no clearly and definitively, that is the decision. Yeah, agreed. But we have lots of other cases where Hixie has either outright said No or has just simply not specced out something. And

Re: [webkit-dev] Fwd: Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.org, 2012-11-27 20:39 -0800: I'm stunned that people are arguing this on webkit-dev. Just FYI, Mozillians with whom I have spoken generally agree that main does not meet the high bar required to add a new element to HTML. Shopping a patch to implementors, to

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 30 November 2012 06:46, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: I think that's the spirit in which Steve took time to contribute code for this, and to start the discussion about it here. Yes, I was motivated by what Maciej stated on the whatwg list [1]: Overall, I would not fall on my sword to

Re: [webkit-dev] Feature announcement: HTMLTemplateElement

2012-11-29 Thread Glenn Adams
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@chromium.orgwrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: The only thing I see as likely to change things in the whatwg is implementations appearing. Yeah, and Hixie has said as much himself: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2012Nov/0041.html as far as main

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 30 November 2012 06:38, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: I think discussing the merits of the whatwg process is probably off topic for this list. agreed, I am just trying to stop process getting in the way of adding a feature (notedly a minor one) to HTML which will benefit users

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org, 2012-11-29 19:10 -0800: Have other browser vendors implemented this feature or have shown their commitments to implement this feature? Or better yet, have we seen anyone using the element? No, nobody has implemented main yet. But we all know there are