[webkit-dev] How did Apple build libicucore.dylib?

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Wing
(I tried webkit-help but didn't get any responses, so I thought maybe
this list might be more appropriate for this question. Sorry for the
duplicate if otherwise.)

I am attempting to build JavaScriptCore for my own embedded
application use. I noticed that Mac and iOS JavaScriptCore have a
dependency on a library called libicucore.

When I build ICU myself from the , I get a handful of different icu
libraries, but nothing named core.

While I can get a working JavaScriptCore built against my ICU
libraries (I need icuuc, icui18n, and icudata), my final binary size
is huge due to the ICU libraries I link in. I tried statically linking
my icu libraries, but the smallest my binary gets is about 30MB per
architecture. When I dynamically link ICU, I can tell that the major
contribution of the bloat is due to the ICU libraries.

Looking at Apple's icucore binary, it is about 6.5MB for 3
architectures which is tiny compared to my 3 icu libraries. I'm
speculating that Apple ripped out all the stuff they don't need and
merged in all the parts they do need into the single libicucore.

Can somebody confirm this is what Apple did, and can somebody tell me
how I can reproduce that? (I did try downloading Apple's 10.9 source
for ICU from MacOSForge, but it built the normal ICU stuff and not
libicucore, nor did I notice any special build options.)

Thanks,
Eric
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Re: [webkit-dev] Status of the Blackberry port

2014-01-10 Thread Eli Fidler
My apologies for the late response.

We haven't been able to commit the effort needed to actively maintain our port 
upstream, so in the interest of unburdening the project we'll support the 
removal. 

If anyone wants our downstream code, it's available at the BlackBerry GitHub 
page:
BBOS: https://github.com/blackberry/WebKit-Smartphone
PlayBook: https://github.com/blackberry/WebKit-PlayBook
BlackBerry 10: https://github.com/blackberry/WebKit-BB10

Eli Fidler

-Original Message-
From: Sam Weinig [mailto:wei...@apple.com] 
Sent: January-04-14 2:21 PM
To: Eli Fidler; webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org Development
Cc: Anders Carlsson
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Status of the Blackberry port

There hasn't been a response to this question in many months and as far as I 
can tell, no additional activity in the BlackBerry port.  Is anyone from 
BlackBerry still interested in maintaining the port? If not, I think we should 
remove it from the tree.

- Sam

On Oct 13, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Anders Carlsson ander...@apple.com wrote:

 Hi Eli,
 
 I'm not sure what still being maintained means.
 
 Looking in WebKit/blackberry, I see 9 changes from BlackBerry people since 
 July and 24 changes from non-BlackBerry people. I'm also not sure that what's 
 in the WebKit repository even builds (which makes it really frustrating to 
 make changes that touch BlackBerry code).
 
 Looking forward to an update,
 - Anders
 
 On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Eli Fidler efid...@blackberry.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it's still being maintained by the folks here at BlackBerry.
 
 Eli
 
 
 
 On 13-10-05 7:12 PM, Sam Weinig wei...@apple.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Can anyone comment on the status of the Blackberry port?  Is it 
 still being maintained?
 
 -Sam
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] How did Apple build libicucore.dylib?

2014-01-10 Thread Anders Carlsson

On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Eric Wing ewmail...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I tried webkit-help but didn't get any responses, so I thought maybe
 this list might be more appropriate for this question. Sorry for the
 duplicate if otherwise.)
 
 I am attempting to build JavaScriptCore for my own embedded
 application use. I noticed that Mac and iOS JavaScriptCore have a
 dependency on a library called libicucore.
 
 When I build ICU myself from the , I get a handful of different icu
 libraries, but nothing named core”.

Hi Eric,

the version of the source code shipped on OS X is available from 
http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/ICU/ICU-511.25/ so you can see how it’s 
done there.

Hope this helps,
- Anders

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Re: [webkit-dev] How did Apple build libicucore.dylib?

2014-01-10 Thread Darin Adler
While I don’t know the answer to the question you asked, 
http://userguide.icu-project.org/icufaq#TOC-How-can-I-reduce-the-size-of-the-ICU-data-library-
 answers what might be the real question. Not sure it’s important to replicate 
exactly what Apple did.

— Darin
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Re: [webkit-dev] How did Apple build libicucore.dylib?

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Wing
On 1/10/14, Anders Carlsson ander...@apple.com wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Eric Wing ewmail...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I tried webkit-help but didn't get any responses, so I thought maybe
 this list might be more appropriate for this question. Sorry for the
 duplicate if otherwise.)

 I am attempting to build JavaScriptCore for my own embedded
 application use. I noticed that Mac and iOS JavaScriptCore have a
 dependency on a library called libicucore.

 When I build ICU myself from the , I get a handful of different icu
 libraries, but nothing named core”.

 Hi Eric,

 the version of the source code shipped on OS X is available from
 http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/ICU/ICU-511.25/ so you can see how
 it’s done there.

 Hope this helps,
 - Anders



Thank you for the response. I missed the (lower-case) makefile in
the root the first time around. (I went directly to the icuSources and
was running grep from there.) I see that this makefile contains
icucore customizations.

So I'm currently trying to figure out how to actually build it. There
is an additional dependency on http://www.iana.org/time-zones for
stuff. At every build step, I seem to be fighting something not found,
so I think I'm missing some setup detail. First, it couldn't find the
the /usr/local/share/tz directory. I created it and put
tzdata-latest.tar.gz and tzcode-latest.tar.gz in there. Then it
complained it couldn't find latest_tzdata.tar.gz (notice the file name
is flipped around) and I figured out it actually has to be a symlink
to tzdata-latest.tar.gz. Then it couldn't find yearistype.sh, so I
manually copied it to the place it was looking. Now I'm currently at
../../bin/zic: Can't open africa: No such file or directory

So I think I'm missing some setup step. Perhaps something related to
$(SDKROOTMOD)?

Anyway, if anybody has some additional info on how to build it, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Eric
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Re: [webkit-dev] How did Apple build libicucore.dylib?

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Wing
On 1/10/14, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote:
 While I don’t know the answer to the question you asked,
 http://userguide.icu-project.org/icufaq#TOC-How-can-I-reduce-the-size-of-the-ICU-data-library-
 answers what might be the real question. Not sure it’s important to
 replicate exactly what Apple did.

 — Darin

Thanks for the valuable info. I'll start researching that too. I would
like to see if I can reproduce Apple's just so I have a baseline
reference (I've written a test262 conformance standalone app for
Mac+JSCore and am using it as my baseline comparison as I do my work
to make sure I'm not subtly breaking things).

But not needing to actually port and maintain all these customizations
would be useful to me in the end.

Thanks,
Eric
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