Re: [webkit-dev] WinCairo video

2014-04-24 Thread Philippe Normand
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 11:21 -0600, Alex Christensen wrote:
> I know there are several companies who don't even want to mess with
> the licenses of GStreamer or FFmpeg.  GStreamer's license isn't a
> problem, but I'm not sure how legally safe the plugins are. 

That's right. If you need support for those problematic codecs there are
some companies that can provide them.
 
>  They certainly don't have an indemnification clause in their
> licenses.  The dlls are still large compared to WebKit, and I've had
> trouble compiling them from source and debugging them on Windows.  The
> distributed versions from freedesktop.org also use a version of
> libsoup that is too old to use as the network backend for WebKit.  I'd
> also like to remove the requirement of installing GStreamer to build
> and run the unmodified WinCairo port to make it easier for people who
> don't know much about WebKit to build and run it.
> 

Those issues can likely be fixed. A lot of effort was invested in easing
the build of GStreamer for windows and Mac OSX. There are still some
bugs to iron out though.

> I'm not saying that GStreamer is out of the question in the future,
> but I think there are more reasons to switch than to stay right now.
> 

That's alright I understand your concerns.

Philippe

> 
> Alex Christensen
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Philippe Normand 
> wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 18:29 -0600, Alex Christensen wrote:
> > I'm working on a Media Foundation implementation of
> MediaPlayerPrivate
> > to replace the GStreamer-based one we're currently using.
>  Media
> > Foundation avoids the licensing issues of GStreamer
> 
> 
> Which licensing issues? You'd be surprised to know the actual
> number and
> variety of products that use GStreamer nowadays.
> 
> >  and the ~100MB of GStreamer dlls which need to be installed
> in a
> > certain directory.  MediaFoundation is included since
> Windows Vista.
> >
> 
> 
> Those dlls can certainly be reduced. I'm no Windows expert but
> there are
> ways to reduce the size of the gst shared libs in Linux
> (disabling debug
> is one).
> 
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I'm the only one working on or using
> WinCairo video,
> > but I hope to make the switch later this week unless someone
> wants to
> > maintain GStreamer on Windows.
> >
> 
> 
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[webkit-dev] What's up with the CHECK_CONSISTENCY macro?

2014-04-24 Thread Andrei Bucur
Hello Webkittens,

I'm trying to add some line boxes sanity checks and I've noticed there's a 
CHECK_CONSISTENCY macro guarding some consistency validation code (go figure!) 
but that's never defined in WebKit/Source. Anybody has an idea how that macro 
is used?

Andrei.
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[webkit-dev] Is anyone using the LevelDB backend to IndexedDB?

2014-04-24 Thread Sam Weinig
Hello,

Is anyone using the LevelDB backend to IndexedDB?

- Sam
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Re: [webkit-dev] Blog post on the contributor's meeting?

2014-04-24 Thread Javier Fernandez
Hi,

On 04/24/2014 08:00 PM, Bem Jones-Bey wrote:
> 
> In addition, there are many sessions from the contributor meeting that
> don't have notes or anything on them on the meeting page[2]. If you have
> anything you could add for any of the sessions, that would be very useful. 
> 

I think it's a good idea; actually, I was about to publish mine, where
I'll mainly talk about the nice discussion we held about Selection on
new layout models, like CSS Regions, CSS Grid Layout and Multi-Column.
I'll also give my impressions about the other sessions I attended.

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[webkit-dev] Blog post on the contributor's meeting?

2014-04-24 Thread Bem Jones-Bey
At the meeting last week, we talked about having more blog posts on the WebKit 
blog. Perhaps we could start with one on the contributors' meeting itself?

The easiest thing to do would be to do a roundup of posts written by attendees 
on their own blogs, assuming anyone has done that. I've written a post for the 
Adobe Web Platform Blog[1]; has anyone else written up their experiences? If 
so, I could draft such a roundup post.

If not, I could write something up for the WebKit blog, but would like to have 
an idea of what we as a project would think as important to highlight.

In addition, there are many sessions from the contributor meeting that don't 
have notes or anything on them on the meeting page[2]. If you have anything you 
could add for any of the sessions, that would be very useful.

Thanks,
Bem

[1]: 
http://blogs.adobe.com/webplatform/2014/04/24/adobe-web-platform-goes-to-the-2014-webkit-contributors-meeting/
[2]: https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/April%202014%20Meeting
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Re: [webkit-dev] WinCairo video

2014-04-24 Thread Alex Christensen
I know there are several companies who don't even want to mess with the
licenses of GStreamer or FFmpeg.  GStreamer's license isn't a problem, but
I'm not sure how legally safe the plugins are.  They certainly don't have
an indemnification clause in their licenses.  The dlls are still large
compared to WebKit, and I've had trouble compiling them from source and
debugging them on Windows.  The distributed versions from
freedesktop.orgalso use a version of libsoup that is too old to use as
the network backend
for WebKit.  I'd also like to remove the requirement of installing
GStreamer to build and run the unmodified WinCairo port to make it easier
for people who don't know much about WebKit to build and run it.

I'm not saying that GStreamer is out of the question in the future, but I
think there are more reasons to switch than to stay right now.

Alex Christensen


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Philippe Normand  wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 18:29 -0600, Alex Christensen wrote:
> > I'm working on a Media Foundation implementation of MediaPlayerPrivate
> > to replace the GStreamer-based one we're currently using.  Media
> > Foundation avoids the licensing issues of GStreamer
>
> Which licensing issues? You'd be surprised to know the actual number and
> variety of products that use GStreamer nowadays.
>
> >  and the ~100MB of GStreamer dlls which need to be installed in a
> > certain directory.  MediaFoundation is included since Windows Vista.
> >
>
> Those dlls can certainly be reduced. I'm no Windows expert but there are
> ways to reduce the size of the gst shared libs in Linux (disabling debug
> is one).
>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I'm the only one working on or using WinCairo video,
> > but I hope to make the switch later this week unless someone wants to
> > maintain GStreamer on Windows.
> >
>
> Philippe
>
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