Re: [webkit-dev] W3C Proposal: User Interface Independence for Accessible Rich Internet Applications

2010-09-03 Thread James Craig
On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Adam Barth wrote: Sorry for not reading the document in detail, but are these events fired synchronously or asynchronously? Since it's all client-side communication between the web app and local user agent, I don't have a preference. Chris may. Do you?

Re: [webkit-dev] W3C Proposal: User Interface Independence for Accessible Rich Internet Applications

2010-09-03 Thread James Craig
On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Mike Marchywka wrote: Certainly an ability to zoom text is well known, but a text to speech facility or re-rendering from web author's original intent ( text to audio conversion) could be of general interest. [ I guess this also motivates another general rant I

Re: [webkit-dev] W3C Proposal: User Interface Independence for Accessible Rich Internet Applications

2010-10-27 Thread James Craig
/dnd.html#undomanager James Craig responded: The main difference seems to be that our Undo and Redo *request* allows the web application to determine what (if anything) should be undone, or redone, where the HTML5 undo manager requires that the user agent make the change directly to the DOM

Re: [webkit-dev] W3C Proposal: User Interface Independence for Accessible Rich Internet Applications

2010-11-02 Thread James Craig
On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Ojan Vafai wrote: On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:57 PM, James Craig wrote: James Craig responded: The main difference seems to be that our Undo and Redo *request* allows the web application to determine what (if anything) should be undone, or redone, where the HTML5

Re: [webkit-dev] W3C Proposal: User Interface Independence for Accessible Rich Internet Applications

2010-11-10 Thread James Craig
On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Ojan Vafai wrote: Heh. There's clearly still a good deal of confusion about what the intended behavior here is. Well, I'm confused anyways. :) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:32 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: Ojan Vafai wrote: How

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: I have submitted a patch [1] to add main element support to webkit and would appreciate your consideration. You should also add a layout test. From an accessibility perspective, the main element is an easy win.

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: ARIA is used by very few authors, and those authors are, by and large, much more competent than average. ARIA therefore tends to be used to a much higher level of quality than most elements. Yet this is part of the problem. One

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
Snipping somewhat for brevity… On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Sites have been quite happily working with a skip past navigation link Happily? Begrudgingly? For what it's worth, landmark navigation should not be confused with skip nav links. Think of it more

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: role=main can achieve this, but sectioning elements take care of the other landmark roles, and it seems strange to have this be the odd one out. In my own judgment, this outweighs risk of misuse. I agree. On the other

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:19 PM, James Robinson jam...@google.com wrote: This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not belong on the webkit-dev list, which is for coordinating the development of WebKit. Please take this over to whatwg@ or some other

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:33 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:19 PM, James Robinson jam...@google.com wrote: This is an interesting standards debate but as many people have noted it does not belong on the webkit-dev list, which is for coordinating the development

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-29 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: I don't see a harm in waiting another couple of weeks or months until standards discussion settles assuming that the main element doesn't become the longdesc of the next decade. Don't confuse the two. The argument over the

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2012-11-30 Thread James Craig
On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: My object is somewhat different. I think it's useful for the readability use-case (and the other proposed solutions are mostly bad jokes), but it doesn't strike me that this give you much default UI and doesn't plumb

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding main element to WebCore

2013-01-17 Thread James Craig
IMO, the following represents enough evidence to land the patch as soon as the last layout test failure is resolved. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103172 1. Sam Ruby, as Chair declared this passing the HTML WG vote, With no objections and ample support, this resolution passes.

[webkit-dev] Heads up: changing default for selectionIncludesAltImageText

2013-04-27 Thread James Craig
I wanted to give the list a heads up because the related issue was somewhat controversial last time. To give some context, this is about whether image alt text should be included in the plain text pasteboard. Most everyone is of the opinion that it should, but several of us feel that it

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing DIALOG_ELEMENT for now

2013-08-29 Thread James Craig
I'd like to see support for @inert subtrees prioritized if dialog is going to be postponed. So many web authors are faking this behavior now, which is problematic for full keyboard access and accessibility. On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: While I'd like to

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing DIALOG_ELEMENT for now

2013-08-29 Thread James Craig
On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:44 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: I'd like to see support for @inert subtrees prioritized if dialog is going to be postponed. I don’t think dialog is being postponed; just that no one has

[webkit-dev] AX: Implement CSS -webkit-alt property (text alternative for generated content pseudo-elements ::before and ::after)

2013-09-30 Thread James Craig
AX: Implement CSS -webkit-alt property https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120188 This is blocking 20+ bugs on one of our higher profile content sites and we’d like to start work on it. To clarify, the problem is that with CSS generated content in pseudo-elements like this:

Re: [webkit-dev] AX: Implement CSS -webkit-alt property (text alternative for generated content pseudo-elements ::before and ::after)

2013-10-01 Thread James Craig
, at 10:08 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: AX: Implement CSS -webkit-alt property https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120188 This is blocking 20+ bugs on one of our higher profile content sites and we’d like to start work on it. To clarify, the problem is that with CSS generated

Re: [webkit-dev] AX: Implement CSS -webkit-alt property (text alternative for generated content pseudo-elements ::before and ::after)

2013-10-08 Thread James Craig
On Oct 8, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Dirk Schulze dschu...@adobe.com wrote: I hope you understand that I am not particularly concerned about Apples screen reader solution. It is one implementation. I would like to know if JAWS, NVDA, Dolphin and other are aboard. Withe the exception of NVDA, the

[webkit-dev] Adding flag to optionally run check-webkit-style as part of prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch

2014-04-04 Thread James Craig
I sometimes forget to run the check-webkit-style script before uploading patches, so I put a patch up for review that adds a --style and --no-style flags to prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch. Alexey suggested I make it the default, which I've done for prepare-Changelog, but not in

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding flag to optionally run check-webkit-style as part of prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch

2014-04-04 Thread James Craig
Yes, but not everyone uses the webkit-patch script in their workflow. On Apr 4, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Brendan Long s...@brendanlong.com wrote: Doesn't 'webkit-patch upload' already do that? On 04/04/2014 02:14 AM, James Craig wrote: I sometimes forget to run the check-webkit-style script

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding flag to optionally run check-webkit-style as part of prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch

2014-04-04 Thread James Craig
the change log creation, you'd never be able to run prepare-Changelog without the --bug parameter, unless you specifically disabled the style check with --no-style. svn-create-patch: - Add it! It's a good idea. Cheers, Zoltan On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:41 AM, James Craig jcr

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding flag to optionally run check-webkit-style as part of prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch

2014-04-04 Thread James Craig
On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Zoltan Horvath zol...@webkit.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Zoltan Horvath zol...@webkit.org wrote: Hi there, prepare-Changelog: - The style checker script runs on the ChangeLogs

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding flag to optionally run check-webkit-style as part of prepare-Changelog and svn-create-patch

2014-04-21 Thread James Craig
Thanks to Brendan, Alexey, Zoltan, and Daniel for the feedback on this, which I've addressed. Any more comments? Thanks. r? On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:14 AM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote: I sometimes forget to run the check-webkit-style script before uploading patches, so I put a patch up

Re: [webkit-dev] dump accessibility tree

2014-04-23 Thread James Craig
Check out dumpAccessibilityChildren() in: ./LayoutTests/accessibility/aria-hidden-false-works-in-subtrees.html Also look in: ./Tools/WebKitTestRunner/InjectedBundle/Bindings/AccessibilityUIElement.idl ./Tools/WebKitTestRunner/InjectedBundle/Bindings/AccessibilityController.idl On Apr 23, 2014,

[webkit-dev] Exposing WebKit/Safari's unique full keyboard access setting to web applications

2014-05-12 Thread James Craig
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[webkit-dev] Exposing WebKit/Safari's unique full keyboard access setting to web applications

2014-05-12 Thread James Craig
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