Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread Alex Milowski
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Alex Milowski  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
>> >
>> > I wonder if it'll work fine since MathML also needs strong font support.
>>
>> Font support is still an issue on all platforms.  The STIX fonts that I've
>> gotten ahold of are terrible.  Maybe when they ship they'll be better.
>>
>
> Uh, they are supposed to be the best math fonts available :-)

That's the rumor.  I'll wait and see what they look like when they
are officially released.  So far, the fonts I've been playing with
(beta versions)
have some obvious errors for operators.

It is unclear when they will be officially released.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread İsmail Dönmez
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Alex Milowski  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if it'll work fine since MathML also needs strong font support.
>
> Font support is still an issue on all platforms.  The STIX fonts that I've
> gotten ahold of are terrible.  Maybe when they ship they'll be better.
>
>
Uh, they are supposed to be the best math fonts available :-)


> It is likely that the CSS will have to be customized on each
> platform to pick the correct "expected" font from the system.


Indeed this makes more sense for the short term.

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ismail
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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread Alex Milowski
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
>
> I wonder if it'll work fine since MathML also needs strong font support.

Font support is still an issue on all platforms.  The STIX fonts that I've
gotten ahold of are terrible.  Maybe when they ship they'll be better.

It is likely that the CSS will have to be customized on each
platform to pick the correct "expected" font from the system.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread İsmail Dönmez
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Alex Milowski  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
> > Did anyone tested it on Qt port? Just curious...
>
> No, not yet.  I haven't setup a Qt build for myself quite yet (just
> Mac & Gtk).
>
> That actually might be easier to do than Windows. :)
>
> I'll look into that today or tomorrow.


I wonder if it'll work fine since MathML also needs strong font support.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread Alex Milowski
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM, İsmail Dönmez  wrote:
> Did anyone tested it on Qt port? Just curious...

No, not yet.  I haven't setup a Qt build for myself quite yet (just
Mac & Gtk).

That actually might be easier to do than Windows. :)

I'll look into that today or tomorrow.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread İsmail Dönmez
Did anyone tested it on Qt port? Just curious...

Regards,
ismail

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Sausset François  wrote:

> I'm also involved in implementing MathML and I share the Alex advice.
> MathML implementation has been asleep for too long. Turning it on by
> default should accelerate the recent progress.
>
> François Sausset
>
>
> Le 28 avr. 2010 à 14:40, Alex Milowski a écrit :
>
> > With the latest patch (37044) having been committed, I feel like we're at
> > a point where I'd like the MathML implementation to be available in
> > the nightly builds.  The code has been built and tested successfully on
> the
> > Mac and Gtk builds.  I intend to look at the windows build next.
> >
> > We have a growing community of developers and interested users and
> > having a nightly build with MathML would allow testing, submission of
> > issues, and receipt of fixes.
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
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> the
> > inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected by the language
> > considered."
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Re: [webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread Sausset François
I'm also involved in implementing MathML and I share the Alex advice.
MathML implementation has been asleep for too long. Turning it on by default 
should accelerate the recent progress.

François Sausset


Le 28 avr. 2010 à 14:40, Alex Milowski a écrit :

> With the latest patch (37044) having been committed, I feel like we're at
> a point where I'd like the MathML implementation to be available in
> the nightly builds.  The code has been built and tested successfully on the
> Mac and Gtk builds.  I intend to look at the windows build next.
> 
> We have a growing community of developers and interested users and
> having a nightly build with MathML would allow testing, submission of
> issues, and receipt of fixes.
> 
> What do others think?
> 
> -- 
> --Alex Milowski
> "The excellence of grammar as a guide is proportional to the paucity of the
> inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected by the language
> considered."
> 
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[webkit-dev] Turning on MathML by Default?

2010-04-28 Thread Alex Milowski
With the latest patch (37044) having been committed, I feel like we're at
a point where I'd like the MathML implementation to be available in
the nightly builds.  The code has been built and tested successfully on the
Mac and Gtk builds.  I intend to look at the windows build next.

We have a growing community of developers and interested users and
having a nightly build with MathML would allow testing, submission of
issues, and receipt of fixes.

What do others think?

-- 
--Alex Milowski
"The excellence of grammar as a guide is proportional to the paucity of the
inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected by the language
considered."

Bertrand Russell in a footnote of Principles of Mathematics
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