Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit licensing and LGPLv3
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 01:51, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 1) We will continue to accept only code that's licensed under a BSD- style (no advertising clause) license, or LGPL 2.1, or other compatible license. We don't want to accept code that's LGPL 3 only, as that would make the whole project LGPL 3. I think continuing to require LGPL 2 or later would be the most sane and most compatible. 2) We'd like to change the copyright notices from their current mix of LGPL 2 or any later version and LGPL 2.1 or any later version to just LGPL 2.1, to make this clear. This one is maybe more debatable, so I'd like to know if anyone objects. It would prevent incorporating WebKit code into LGPL 3 projects, and would require sign-off from all copyright holders to ever change to a different LGPL version in the future (in case the FSF came out with a version 3.1 or 4 that solved some of the problems with v3). I object. I would like to reserve the right to integrate WebKit with LGPL 3 projects like future KDE libs. Though since we are talking LGPL the linking-issues are not that problematic, it would still make it easier if the project continued to include the or later clause. Regards `Allan ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit licensing and LGPLv3
Hi Maciej, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 1) We will continue to accept only code that's licensed under a BSD-style (no advertising clause) license, or LGPL 2.1, or other compatible license. We don't want to accept code that's LGPL 3 only, as that would make the whole project LGPL 3. As I understand it, yes (standard IANAL disclaimer here). I have no objects with this. 2) We'd like to change the copyright notices from their current mix of LGPL 2 or any later version and LGPL 2.1 or any later version to just LGPL 2.1, to make this clear. This one is maybe more debatable, so I'd like to know if anyone objects. It would prevent incorporating WebKit code into LGPL 3 projects, and would require sign-off from all copyright holders to ever change to a different LGPL version in the future (in case the FSF came out with a version 3.1 or 4 that solved some of the problems with v3). I think sticking with LGPL 2 or any later version might be best for now. The reason I say this is it puts fewer limits on what GPL projects WebKit, or parts of WebKit (I suppose), can be incorporated into. Personally, I am not a big fan of (L)GPL v3 (although, I have not really followed it since the first draft), but I still think that it is good to be as less restrictive as possible, in certain senses. -Donald Kirker ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit licensing and LGPLv3
On Wednesday 25 July 2007, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Wednesday 25 July 2007 01:51, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 1) We will continue to accept only code that's licensed under a BSD- style (no advertising clause) license, or LGPL 2.1, or other compatible license. We don't want to accept code that's LGPL 3 only, as that would make the whole project LGPL 3. I think continuing to require LGPL 2 or later would be the most sane and most compatible. Accepting LGPL 3 only code is not something we should do, as it would lead to more restrict licensing terms than we currently have. 2) We'd like to change the copyright notices from their current mix of LGPL 2 or any later version and LGPL 2.1 or any later version to just LGPL 2.1, to make this clear. This one is maybe more debatable, so I'd like to know if anyone objects. It would prevent incorporating WebKit code into LGPL 3 projects, and would require sign-off from all copyright holders to ever change to a different LGPL version in the future (in case the FSF came out with a version 3.1 or 4 that solved some of the problems with v3). I object. I would like to reserve the right to integrate WebKit with LGPL 3 projects like future KDE libs. Though since we are talking LGPL the linking-issues are not that problematic, it would still make it easier if the project continued to include the or later clause. I have to agree with Allan. Restricting it to 2.1 only might give open source projects (KDE being one of them) problems in the future. I don't see a need to change the license to become more restrictive than it has been in the past. As a sidenote, since we're already talking about licensing: I don't quite see the benefits of having a mix of BSD and LGPL licenses. LGPL is more restrictive, so that one applies to the project as a whole anyways. Wouldn't it be easier to just have one license (LGPL 2.1 or later) for the complete code base? Cheers, Lars ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit licensing and LGPLv3
Hi Allan, I've forwarded your comments and those of others internally at Apple. I won't do #2 for moment. I'd still appreciate any other input on this point. Regards, Maciej On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:05 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Wednesday 25 July 2007 01:51, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 1) We will continue to accept only code that's licensed under a BSD- style (no advertising clause) license, or LGPL 2.1, or other compatible license. We don't want to accept code that's LGPL 3 only, as that would make the whole project LGPL 3. I think continuing to require LGPL 2 or later would be the most sane and most compatible. 2) We'd like to change the copyright notices from their current mix of LGPL 2 or any later version and LGPL 2.1 or any later version to just LGPL 2.1, to make this clear. This one is maybe more debatable, so I'd like to know if anyone objects. It would prevent incorporating WebKit code into LGPL 3 projects, and would require sign-off from all copyright holders to ever change to a different LGPL version in the future (in case the FSF came out with a version 3.1 or 4 that solved some of the problems with v3). I object. I would like to reserve the right to integrate WebKit with LGPL 3 projects like future KDE libs. Though since we are talking LGPL the linking-issues are not that problematic, it would still make it easier if the project continued to include the or later clause. Regards `Allan ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
