Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Dominic Mazzoni
Hi Sam, I'm one of Chrome's accessibility developers. I think this is a really great idea, I think the ability for WebKit to do the searching rather than the screen reader could be a big performance win for users. In order to take advantage of this feature on multiple platforms, we'd need to add

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Dominic Mazzoni
I just had another thought: how would this work in a multi-process browser? As you may know, Chrome runs an instance of webkit in a separate renderer process for each tab, but the GUI and all accessibility handling happens in the main browser process. Because accessibility calls are synchronous,

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Chris Fleizach
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: I just had another thought: how would this work in a multi-process browser? As you may know, Chrome runs an instance of webkit in a separate renderer process for each tab, but the GUI and all accessibility handling happens in the main

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Dominic Mazzoni
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Chris Fleizach cfleiz...@apple.com wrote: I think this is one drawback of Chrome's approach, the inability to retrieve dynamic information. I suspect Chrome has similar issues for the NSAccessibilityParameterizedAttribute attributes, and that it doesn't

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread James Robinson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Chris Fleizach cfleiz...@apple.com wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: I just had another thought: how would this work in a multi-process browser? As you may know, Chrome runs an instance of webkit in a separate renderer process

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Samuel White
Hey Dominic, Thanks for the feedback. I've been prototyping this idea here and it does included text searching as you mentioned. My philosophy was to put the search functionality right into the AccessibilityObject class and leave the job of exposing external APIs up to the experts of each

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Samuel White
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Samuel White samuel_wh...@apple.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I've been prototyping this idea here and it does included text searching as you mentioned. My philosophy was to put the search

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-22 Thread Chris Fleizach
On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, James Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Chris Fleizach cfleiz...@apple.com wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: I just had another thought: how would this work in a multi-process browser? As you may know, Chrome runs

[webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-21 Thread Samuel White
Hey everybody, I'm new to the list and thought it would be a good idea to get some feedback on an accessibility feature before filing a bug or submitting anything. Currently, no functionality exists in WebKit to search through AccessibilityObjects using basic search criteria like next link or

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-21 Thread Charles Pritchard
On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Samuel White samuel_wh...@apple.com wrote: Hey everybody, I'm new to the list and thought it would be a good idea to get some feedback on an accessibility feature before filing a bug or submitting anything. Currently, no functionality exists in WebKit to

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-21 Thread Chris Fleizach
Searching for elements on a webpage is one of the important functions for a screen reader, so this has the potential for vastly improving screen reader access on the web. What's nice about this approach is that it will allow other platforms to also take advantage. It should significantly

Re: [webkit-dev] Accessibility Object Searching

2011-06-21 Thread Chris Fleizach
On Jun 21, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Samuel White samuel_wh...@apple.com wrote: Hey everybody, I'm new to the list and thought it would be a good idea to get some feedback on an accessibility feature before filing a bug or submitting