Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-23 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Elliott Sprehn  wrote:

> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Antti Koivisto  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Tab Atkins Jr.  wrote:
> No, it's just a refactoring on the CSS side, so we don't have to
> repeat a bunch of stuff every time we have an at-rule that contains
> other rules.  It just makes the WebIDL easier and less error-prone.
> 
> It seems bit strange to add a web-exposed type if it is just a spec writing 
> helper. Each new type has non-zero cost (code size of generated bindings etc).
> 
> Internally it obviously makes sense to share code, I'm just wondering why we 
> would want to expose this via API.
> 
> 
> It means you can add methods to the prototype across all the types, and you 
> can override methods across the types per the way they're described in IDL. 
> It also provides instanceof for type checking in JS.

Prototype hacking the CSSOM and instanceof-based dynamic type checking of the 
CSSOM are both pretty improbable use cases.

> 
> If we're not going to expose it and be spec compliant then perhaps we should 
> take that up with the spec as an objection and see if they're willing to use 
> a NoInterfaceObject instead.

I think you would probably also want it to be a supplemental interface to 
achieve the desired effect, if going this route.

Regards,
Maciej

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Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-21 Thread Elliott Sprehn
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Antti Koivisto  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>
>> No, it's just a refactoring on the CSS side, so we don't have to
>> repeat a bunch of stuff every time we have an at-rule that contains
>> other rules.  It just makes the WebIDL easier and less error-prone.
>>
>
> It seems bit strange to add a web-exposed type if it is just a spec
> writing helper. Each new type has non-zero cost (code size of generated
> bindings etc).
>
> Internally it obviously makes sense to share code, I'm just wondering why
> we would want to expose this via API.
>
>
It means you can add methods to the prototype across all the types, and you
can override methods across the types per the way they're described in IDL.
It also provides instanceof for type checking in JS.

If we're not going to expose it and be spec compliant then perhaps we
should take that up with the spec as an objection and see if they're
willing to use a NoInterfaceObject instead.

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Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-21 Thread Antti Koivisto
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:

> No, it's just a refactoring on the CSS side, so we don't have to
> repeat a bunch of stuff every time we have an at-rule that contains
> other rules.  It just makes the WebIDL easier and less error-prone.
>

It seems bit strange to add a web-exposed type if it is just a spec writing
helper. Each new type has non-zero cost (code size of generated bindings
etc).

Internally it obviously makes sense to share code, I'm just wondering why
we would want to expose this via API.


   antti


>
> ~TJ
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Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-20 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Antti Koivisto  wrote:
> We already have internal type corresponding to the new CSSGroupingRule,
> StyleRuleBlock. Technically refactoring the CSSOM like this would be fairly
> trivial.
>
> It is not clear to me what value this new type adds though. In JS you don't
> really care if types have a common base as long as they share similar
> looking interface. Are there some concrete use cases?

No, it's just a refactoring on the CSS side, so we don't have to
repeat a bunch of stuff every time we have an at-rule that contains
other rules.  It just makes the WebIDL easier and less error-prone.

~TJ
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Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-13 Thread Pablo Flouret

On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:12:06 -0800, Antti Koivisto  wrote:


We already have internal type corresponding to the new
CSSGroupingRule, StyleRuleBlock. Technically refactoring the CSSOM like
this would be fairly trivial.

It is not clear to me what value this new type adds though. In JS you  
don't

really care if types have a common base as long as they share similar
looking interface. Are there some concrete use cases?



Not particularly, no, i just saw a lot of copypasting around  
cssRules/insertRule/deleteRule/cssomwrappers. I don't feel strongly about  
this, so i can leave it alone, maybe post a patch later on if have the  
time, to see if it would add value.


Thanks for the input,

/pf


  antti


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Pablo Flouret   
wrote:



Hello webkit folk,

I'm working on having @supports behave like a proper CSSSupportsRule  
[1].


In the css3-conditional spec, CSSSupportsRule inherits from a
CSSGroupingRule (CSSMediaRule does as well):
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-conditional/#the-cssgroupingrule-interface.

I'm wondering if it's a good idea, as a first step, to do a bit of
refactoring and rip the stuff that's now in CSSGroupingRule from
CSSMediaRule (cssRules/insertRule/deleteRule), and have the supports
and media rules inherit from it.

Incidentally, i see at least WebKitCSSKeyframesRule and
WebKitCSSRegionRule also having similar but not quite identical
re-implementations of these functions, but i guess whether these ones
should also inherit from CSSGroupingRule might be a question for the
standards mailing lists first (in any case, they would potentially
benefit from such a refactoring).

Opinions / advice / potential problems?

Thanks!

[1] http://wkbug.com/104822

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Re: [webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-13 Thread Antti Koivisto
We already have internal type corresponding to the new
CSSGroupingRule, StyleRuleBlock. Technically refactoring the CSSOM like
this would be fairly trivial.

It is not clear to me what value this new type adds though. In JS you don't
really care if types have a common base as long as they share similar
looking interface. Are there some concrete use cases?


  antti


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Pablo Flouret  wrote:

> Hello webkit folk,
>
> I'm working on having @supports behave like a proper CSSSupportsRule [1].
>
> In the css3-conditional spec, CSSSupportsRule inherits from a
> CSSGroupingRule (CSSMediaRule does as well):
> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-conditional/#the-cssgroupingrule-interface.
>
> I'm wondering if it's a good idea, as a first step, to do a bit of
> refactoring and rip the stuff that's now in CSSGroupingRule from
> CSSMediaRule (cssRules/insertRule/deleteRule), and have the supports
> and media rules inherit from it.
>
> Incidentally, i see at least WebKitCSSKeyframesRule and
> WebKitCSSRegionRule also having similar but not quite identical
> re-implementations of these functions, but i guess whether these ones
> should also inherit from CSSGroupingRule might be a question for the
> standards mailing lists first (in any case, they would potentially
> benefit from such a refactoring).
>
> Opinions / advice / potential problems?
>
> Thanks!
>
> [1] http://wkbug.com/104822
>
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[webkit-dev] CSSGroupingRule and a bit of refactoring?

2012-12-12 Thread Pablo Flouret
Hello webkit folk,

I'm working on having @supports behave like a proper CSSSupportsRule [1].

In the css3-conditional spec, CSSSupportsRule inherits from a
CSSGroupingRule (CSSMediaRule does as well):
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-conditional/#the-cssgroupingrule-interface.

I'm wondering if it's a good idea, as a first step, to do a bit of
refactoring and rip the stuff that's now in CSSGroupingRule from
CSSMediaRule (cssRules/insertRule/deleteRule), and have the supports
and media rules inherit from it.

Incidentally, i see at least WebKitCSSKeyframesRule and
WebKitCSSRegionRule also having similar but not quite identical
re-implementations of these functions, but i guess whether these ones
should also inherit from CSSGroupingRule might be a question for the
standards mailing lists first (in any case, they would potentially
benefit from such a refactoring).

Opinions / advice / potential problems?

Thanks!

[1] http://wkbug.com/104822

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