Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-10-02 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Tuesday 01 October 2013, Oliver Hunt wrote: having helped as far as we could. But why should webkit have _any_ burden when Qt itself cares so little about QtWebKit that it is happy to have qtisms that were ostensibly necessary for performance, etc removed? So if we try minimize the

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-10-01 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 30 September 2013, Oliver Hunt wrote: On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: Some of this is exactly the reason we want to keep Qt WebKit alive. It may never be possible to fully replace Qt WebKit with anything Blink/Chromium based. I really

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-10-01 Thread Filip Pizlo
To me the most invasive Qtism is qmake. When can we get rid of that? -Fil On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:50 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Monday 30 September 2013, Oliver Hunt wrote: On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: Some of this

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-10-01 Thread Oliver Hunt
On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:50 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Monday 30 September 2013, Oliver Hunt wrote: On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: Some of this is exactly the reason we want to keep Qt WebKit alive. It may never be possible

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Thursday 26 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Saturday 14 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: That said, in all

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Dirk Schulze
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Thursday 26 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Saturday 14 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM,

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Arunprasad Rajkumar
New XML parser was removed from the tree [1]. [1] https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-August/022103.html http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/140399 On 30 September 2013 19:18, Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru wrote: 30.09.2013, 17:39, Dirk Schulze k...@webkit.org: On Sep

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 30 September 2013, Dirk Schulze wrote: I would not necessarily disagree with the problem of upstreaming work. But you said that most likely you wouldn't be able to branch WebKit anymore because of the compiler requirement. At least for Qt. Do you have other interests in QtWebKit

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Geoffrey Garen
I’m planning to remove m_qStringData from StringImpl, along with any code that depends on it. Any objections? Geoff ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 30 September 2013, Geoffrey Garen wrote: I’m planning to remove m_qStringData from StringImpl, along with any code that depends on it. Any objections? It should be removable by manually reverting r119217, it will hurt Qt WK2 and JSC bridge performance, but in theory not break

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Geoffrey Garen
It should be removable by manually reverting r119217, it will hurt Qt WK2 and JSC bridge performance, but in theory not break anything if done right. Do you need to remove it to free a up a new type of string buffer ownership? We’d like to remove all special buffers, so that: -

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
30.09.2013, 13:59, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com:  If a new branch is made from WebKit trunk in the future would likely only be limited to specific platforms, and therefore not suited as a module shipped with Qt, but as an optional upgrade. If QtWebKit is downgraded from Qt

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-30 Thread Oliver Hunt
On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: Some of this is exactly the reason we want to keep Qt WebKit alive. It may never be possible to fully replace Qt WebKit with anything Blink/Chromium based. I really don’t understand this, there are only two options:

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-26 Thread Andreas Kling
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Saturday 14 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: That said, in all likelihood the Qt port will not remain part of WebKit forever, ...

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-25 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Saturday 14 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: That said, in all likelihood the Qt port will not remain part of WebKit forever, ... (This being the main reason.) Since you already know you’re eventually

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-24 Thread Sam Weinig
Allan, Andreas and Benjamin make good points, care to respond? (Being an active member of this community means responding on this mailing list). -Sam On Sep 14, 2013, at 3:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: On Friday 13 September 2013, Benjamin Poulain wrote: This is

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-14 Thread Andreas Kling
On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: When modules of Qt are put on maintenance, it is basically a synonym to it's unmaintained, just let it die. I am very unexcited about having one of those in the tree along the live development from everyone else.

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-14 Thread Benjamin Poulain
On 9/14/13, 9:21 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen k...@carewolf.com wrote: When modules of Qt are put on maintenance, it is basically a synonym to it's unmaintained, just let it die. I am very unexcited about having one of those in the tree along

[webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Albisser Zeno
Hello WebKittens As many of you have probably noticed already, we have recently been focusing on a project called Qt WebEngine. Our WebKit efforts have therefore been reduced significantly over the past weeks. While we will keep shipping QtWebKit with Qt for the foreseeable future, we want to

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Darin Adler
On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Albisser Zeno zeno.albis...@digia.com wrote: Qt WebEngine What is that? Is it based on a fork of WebKit? -- Darin ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Zeno Albisser
Hi Benjamin, On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org wrote: This is sad. I can understand very well, that you are not very happy about this. And I don't think anybody here took this decision lightly. When modules of Qt are put on maintenance, it is basically a

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi Darin, I think he forgot to paste the link which add a bit of meat to the conversation. http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/09/12/introducing-the-qt-webengine/ Thanks. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Albisser Zeno

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Benjamin Poulain
On 9/13/13, 4:50 AM, Albisser Zeno wrote: As many of you have probably noticed already, we have recently been focusing on a project called Qt WebEngine. Our WebKit efforts have therefore been reduced significantly over the past weeks. While we will keep shipping QtWebKit with Qt for the

Re: [webkit-dev] Changes in QtWebKit development

2013-09-13 Thread Brent Fulgham
On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org wrote: On 9/13/13, 4:50 AM, Albisser Zeno wrote: As many of you have probably noticed already, we have recently been focusing on a project called Qt WebEngine. Our WebKit efforts have therefore been reduced significantly