Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Ryan Leavengood
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:37 PM, David Levin wrote: > > Exactly :) What are you saying, the rest of the WebKit community doesn't want to spend weeks perfecting the architecture to make my life easier? :) When the need comes, it'll be done. Which may be never, but that's life. -- Regards, Ryan _

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread David Levin
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Ryan Leavengood wrote: > There may be a time when I do this work, but I have bigger fish to fry at > the moment... > Exactly :) ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listi

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Ryan Leavengood
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, David Levin wrote: > > I suspect the pain hasn't been big enough so far for any person/organization > to decide to address this. Well it may not really be worth the trouble, I just always found the #ifdefs in WebCore/platform to be a little smelly. But they work.

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread David Levin
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Ryan Leavengood wrote: > I personally would like to see WebCore > evolve into being as self-contained as possible, with clear APIs for a > platform to attach to. > I suspect the pain hasn't been big enough so far for any person/organization to decide to address thi

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Ryan Leavengood
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > > Hopefully we will start writing more and more tests as reftests, to > address the first category. Moving to one of the existing cross-port > build mechanisms like GYP or CMake would help. Yeah I will attempt to make use of GYP myself for the

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Ryan Leavengood wrote: > Actually regarding the 42,000 changesets: these have all come in the > last year and a half (), and are almost as many changesets as ever > came before in the current WebKit repo. This is exponential growth! > How is a small port possib

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Ryan Leavengood
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: > > It seems like either you should be a private fork/port, or a public > upstreamed one, but not both.  If you want to live in the upstream tree, I > think most of your development work should land quickly in public.  If you > want to work in

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Kasting
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Ryan Leavengood wrote: > The primary problem with our port right now is some of the developers > made the choice (which I objected to) to make our own Subversion repo > containing the WebKit code to make it easier (in their eyes) to > develop the port. > > Where can

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-03 Thread Ryan Leavengood
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Eric Seidel wrote: > > I think any time the larger community is spending more effort than the > port authors on a particular port we should be wary about keeping the > port. Yes this is totally reasonable. > Certainly that indicates that either our base-costs for

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-11-03 Thread Ryan Leavengood
Hello all, Sorry for the delay in response to this, I don't follow this mailing list closely, obviously. I just happened to search for Haiku, and was not too shocked to see this message. Given that the Haiku port has now been removed (in fact, Adam did it right on September 25 when this message wa

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Eric Seidel
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> Yeah, I'm not sure where we should draw the line, but this case seems >> pretty clearly in the "unmaintained" camp, as was the old Android >> port.  Maybe a good rule of thumb is something

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Fair enough. Rough consensus among reviewers sound good to me. - Ryosuke On Sep 25, 2011 11:16 AM, "Geoffrey Garen" wrote: >> Following this pattern, giving a warning then waiting for some period of time might be sufficient. e.g. >> Warn the port (probably on webkit-dev) >> Wait for six months >>

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Geoffrey Garen
> Following this pattern, giving a warning then waiting for some period of time > might be sufficient. e.g. > Warn the port (probably on webkit-dev) > Wait for six months > If there's no activity in step 2 to counter the argument, then remove the > port. You might think this leniency is friendly

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
I think removing Haiku port is a good thing given they don't even have build bots or EWS bots. We can't even tell if they compile or not. On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > > Yeah, I'm not sure where we should draw the line, but this case seems > pretty clearly in the "unmaintai

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Geoffrey Garen
> As part of our effort to reduce complexity in WebKit, I believe it is > now time to remove the Haiku port. +1 Geoff ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Xan Lopez wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> As part of our effort to reduce complexity in WebKit, I believe it is >> now time to remove the Haiku port. > > Perhaps it would make sense to have a small set of simple rules > written down

Re: [webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Xan Lopez
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > As part of our effort to reduce complexity in WebKit, I believe it is > now time to remove the Haiku port. Perhaps it would make sense to have a small set of simple rules written down somewhere that would justify the WebKit developers in removi

[webkit-dev] It's time to remove the Haiku port

2011-09-25 Thread Adam Barth
On April 9, 2010, I wrote an email to webkit-dev asking if it was time to remove the Haiku port: http://old.nabble.com/Archiving-the-Haiku-port--(was-WebKit2-and-all-that-jazz)-td28197730.html At the time, the port appeared inactive. Stephan Assmus and Maxime Simon wrote that they planned to con