Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger
OK, cool! Thanks a lot. Nice to see a functioning browser to browser debugging. Do you know if the Web Inspector protocol specification is stable and finalized now? Thanks! -Sergiy De : Joseph Pecoraro [mailto:pecor...@apple.com] Envoyé : vendredi 18 février 2011 19:31 À : Sergiy Temnikov Cc : webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org; Pavel Feldman; loi...@chromium.org; pmue...@yahoo.com Objet : Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger Hello Sergiy, I've got a bunch of links for different areas where work has been done. Some information on the protocol and is outlined in the following links. I don't think they are up to date; I think things have improved and evolved since then. Pavel and Ilya may be able to comment more on the protocol since there has been quite a bit of work recently splitting it up into different domains to turn on/off debugging different domains or feature sets. But I think the protocol has been stable for a while. I think they even had some discussion with the Firebug team when they talked about a debugging protocol, but I can't seem to find where that discussion took place. http://webkit.org/b/43732 Web Inspector: Remote debugging meta-bug https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1d_N-OIb3UztuC-_g0piXsIIdp89HnMcDk-uSQ8uamW4hl=enauthkey=CIf48O4Jpli=1#https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1d_N-OIb3UztuC-_g0piXsIIdp89HnMcDk-uSQ8uamW4hl=enauthkey=CIf48O4Jpli=1 Here is a screencast, previously posted to this list, of it working in Chromium: https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2010-August/013797.html http://screencast.com/t/YTI2OTY4YTEt There has been some work on an internal WebKit solution based on Web Sockets: http://webkit.org/b/43988 Web Inspector: Remote Web Inspector support for QtWebKit [Already Landed] http://webkit.org/b/51364 Web Inspector: Remote Web Inspector - Cross Platform InspectorServer [Open - Issues to be Worked Out] External to WebKit, Patrick Mueller has been working on weinre. Patrick is on this list and might comment more: http://pmuellr.github.com/weinre/index.html (https://github.com/pmuellr/weinre) http://muellerware.org/papers/weinre/manual.html - Joe On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Sergiy Temnikov wrote: Hello, I'm working on a remote JavaScript debugger for a server which uses webkit to execute JavaScript code. The debugger is shaping up nicely and is already very much functional. We chose Crossfire as the debugging protocol and developed our own UI debugger client. However, being Crossfire-compatible, should allow us in the (hopefully near) future to debug the server-side JavaScript using Firefox with Firebug and Crossfire plug-ins. I was wondering if there are any plans in the webkit community to create a native remote JavaScript debugger as part of the webkit build. If there are such plans then what would be the debugging protocol of choice? Webkit is already available on mobile devices but because of the screen size limitations it is not always reasonable to debug the Javascript directly on a device. Instead, it would be nice to debug the device's JavaScript from a regular PC over the network. If any of you are already working on a similar subject then please share your thoughts and comments regarding your particular implementation, which protocol you use and how you see remote debugging appearing in webkit. Regards, -Sergiy Temnikov 3fa2fb.png Sergiy Temnikov Architecte Logiciel Email : sergiy.temni...@4d.commailto:sergiy.temni...@4d.com Web : www.4D.comhttp://www.4D.com 4D SAS 60, rue d'Alsace 92110 Clichy - France Standard : +33 1 40 87 92 00 ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.orgmailto:webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger
Hello, I have not been on the calls but I have posted about my remote debugger work on the FireBug working group message board. It is true that Crossfire is smaller than the Web Inspector protocol but it has all I need for the remote debugging of a faceless server that runs JavaScript. In fact the two protocols are quite close to each other, at least the part related to the source code inspection and tracing. I might even support both seeing that it does not require too much work to reformat messages from one protocol to another. I wish the two protocols were unified and compatible :-) -Sergiy [cid:f9ed10.png@1aafdebe.4b9b52d9] Sergiy Temnikov Architecte Logiciel Email : sergiy.temni...@4d.commailto:sergiy.temni...@4d.com Web : www.4D.comhttp://www.4D.com 4D SAS 60, rue d'Alsace 92110 Clichy - France Standard : +33 1 40 87 92 00 De : Patrick Mueller [mailto:pmue...@gmail.com] Envoyé : vendredi 18 février 2011 20:08 À : Joseph Pecoraro Cc : Sergiy Temnikov; webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org; Pavel Feldman; loi...@chromium.org Objet : Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger Hello Sergiy, Have you been on any of the FireBug working group calls? Wondering if John J Barton and Michael Collins (like me, they also work at IBM) are familiar with your work. I join the calls occasionally, just to keep up to speed with CrossFire, and don't remember hearing from you - but I also don't pay a whole lot of attention during those calls :-) My understanding is that CrossFire really only supports JS breakpoints at the moment - if you look at the protocol that Web Inspector uses, you'll see it's quite a bit larger. In addition to everything Joe mentioned, there's a guy who has Web Inspector hooked up to node.js for doing source-level debugging with node with the WI front-end. https://github.com/dannycoates/node-inspector - I keep meaning to get in touch with that guy, but haven't yet. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 13:31, Joseph Pecoraro pecor...@apple.commailto:pecor...@apple.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Sergiy Temnikov wrote: inline: f9ed10.png___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger
Hello Sergiy, I've got a bunch of links for different areas where work has been done. Some information on the protocol and is outlined in the following links. I don't think they are up to date; I think things have improved and evolved since then. Pavel and Ilya may be able to comment more on the protocol since there has been quite a bit of work recently splitting it up into different domains to turn on/off debugging different domains or feature sets. But I think the protocol has been stable for a while. I think they even had some discussion with the Firebug team when they talked about a debugging protocol, but I can't seem to find where that discussion took place. http://webkit.org/b/43732 Web Inspector: Remote debugging meta-bug https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1d_N-OIb3UztuC-_g0piXsIIdp89HnMcDk-uSQ8uamW4hl=enauthkey=CIf48O4Jpli=1# Here is a screencast, previously posted to this list, of it working in Chromium: https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2010-August/013797.html http://screencast.com/t/YTI2OTY4YTEt There has been some work on an internal WebKit solution based on Web Sockets: http://webkit.org/b/43988 Web Inspector: Remote Web Inspector support for QtWebKit [Already Landed] http://webkit.org/b/51364 Web Inspector: Remote Web Inspector - Cross Platform InspectorServer [Open - Issues to be Worked Out] External to WebKit, Patrick Mueller has been working on weinre. Patrick is on this list and might comment more: http://pmuellr.github.com/weinre/index.html (https://github.com/pmuellr/weinre) http://muellerware.org/papers/weinre/manual.html - Joe On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Sergiy Temnikov wrote: Hello, I'm working on a remote JavaScript debugger for a server which uses webkit to execute JavaScript code. The debugger is shaping up nicely and is already very much functional. We chose Crossfire as the debugging protocol and developed our own UI debugger client. However, being Crossfire-compatible, should allow us in the (hopefully near) future to debug the server-side JavaScript using Firefox with Firebug and Crossfire plug-ins. I was wondering if there are any plans in the webkit community to create a native remote JavaScript debugger as part of the webkit build. If there are such plans then what would be the debugging protocol of choice? Webkit is already available on mobile devices but because of the screen size limitations it is not always reasonable to debug the Javascript directly on a device. Instead, it would be nice to debug the device's JavaScript from a regular PC over the network. If any of you are already working on a similar subject then please share your thoughts and comments regarding your particular implementation, which protocol you use and how you see remote debugging appearing in webkit. Regards, -Sergiy Temnikov 3fa2fb.png Sergiy Temnikov Architecte Logiciel Email : sergiy.temni...@4d.com Web : www.4D.com 4D SAS 60, rue d'Alsace 92110 Clichy - France Standard :+33 1 40 87 92 00 ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Remote debugger
On 2/18/11 1:31 PM, Joseph Pecoraro wrote: ... In addition to everything Joe mentioned, there's also a project to reuse Web Inspector for node.js debugging: https://github.com/dannycoates/node-inspector -- Patrick Mueller - http://muellerware.org ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
