Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-13 Thread Maciej Stachowiak


On Jan 13, 2007, at 4:52 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:

Thanks for the comments Maciej. I've just filled 15 new reports  
with generic

descriptions. I'll try to refine them in the future whenever possible.

It seams that some bugs can be solved with workarounds in the  
editor code.

I've still to check it.

Having those bugs fixed will make FCKeditor close to be officially  
announced

as compatible with Safari. I'm excited with it!


Great, glad to hear it! We appreciate you working with us on this  
stuff and getting the bugs filed.


Regards,
Maciej

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RE: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-13 Thread Frederico Caldeira Knabben
Hi Joost,

> if you need any help with Bugzilla or reducing bugs, let me know, i'd love
> to see your editor working!

We have a Master Bug for FCKeditor:
http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9915

Check out the dependencies there. Any help you could give is more than
welcome.

Thanks for your message.

Best regards,
FredCK


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RE: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-13 Thread Frederico Caldeira Knabben
Thanks for the comments Maciej. I've just filled 15 new reports with generic
descriptions. I'll try to refine them in the future whenever possible.

It seams that some bugs can be solved with workarounds in the editor code.
I've still to check it.

Having those bugs fixed will make FCKeditor close to be officially announced
as compatible with Safari. I'm excited with it!

Regards,
FredCK




> -Original Message-
> From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:36 AM
> To: David D. Kilzer
> Cc: Frederico Caldeira Knabben; webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:36 AM, David D. Kilzer wrote:
> 
> > Hi FredCK,
> >
> > I'd recommend filing all of the bugs.  That way if someone else
> > gets the notion to create a reduced test case or fix the bug,
> > that's less work you'll have to do in the long run!
> >
> > Please do a cursory search for existing bugs before filing new ones
> > as well.  For example, "links are clickable in the editing area"
> > may be similar to Bug 11297.  (It took me three searches to find
> > that one, though, so don't spend all your time search for pre-
> > existing bugs!)  It's better to have the bugs documented and later
> > marked RESOLVED/DUPLICATE than to not have them documented at all.
> >
> > http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11297
> 
> I agree with Dave's suggestion. Having the bugs filed is more
> important than level of detail in the bug. We will likely need
> reductions for these at some point to be able to fix them, but those
> don't have to be done at the same time or even by the same person as
> originally filing the bug.
> 
> Cheers,
> Maciej
> 
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:
> >
> >> It is really nice to see that FCKeditor is almost running with the
> >> nightly.
> >> There are still some bugs, and before I do any move, I would like
> >> to be sure
> >> this is something acceptable.
> >>
> >> I've always tried to create bug reports whithout associating them to
> >> FCKeditor. I simply got a buggy thing in the editor, and reducted
> >> it as much
> >> as possible to generate precise reports.
> >>
> >> All we know how reductions are important. And we also know that their
> >> creation take a lot of time. So, the report of bugs were going
> >> pretty slow.
> >>
> >> I've noted instead that, for the TinyMCE editor, there are many
> >> generic bugs
> >> strictly specifying TinyMCE compatibility. Something like
> >> "TinyMCE: Format
> >> pulldown doesn't work". Those reports have not so much
> >> information. Many
> >> times just a line of descrition of the bug.
> >>
> >> I have a list of bugs of FCKeditor with Safari. Should I start
> >> filling
> >> simple "FCKeditor: ..." reports for all of them?
> >>
> >> In these way we would all have a clear compatibility status, and
> >> in the mean
> >> time myself, and others interested would be working for the
> >> regressions.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the information,
> >> FredCK
> >>
> >> PS: The following are the current known bugs:
> >>
> >> - links are clickable in the editing area
> >> - the "Save" button doesn't update the hidden field before posting
> >> - bogus  remain in the code
> >> - "Templates" doesn't work when inserting in the cursor position
> >> - paste buttons are always disabled
> >> - find dialog doesn't work
> >> - "Remove Format" button adds Apple tag to the code
> >> - enter key inside forms create further forms.
> >> - hidden fields doesn't show up
> >> -  when formatting
> >> - ,  and  have id="undefined"
> >> - the "Link" dialog is not loading correctly
> >> - objects are not selectable and dragable
> >> - "Insert Special Char" doesn't work
> >> - the "Size" toolbar combo has no effect in text
> >> - panels on toolbar items are positioned wrongly
> >> - panels are not hidden when clicking outside them
> >> - context menu icons are not showing
> >> - tables are compressed on creation
> >> - form fields are enabled in the editing area
> >
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Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-13 Thread Joost 'AlthA' de Valk

Fred,

if you need any help with Bugzilla or reducing bugs, let me know, i'd  
love to see your editor working!


Regards,
Joost

On Jan 13, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:



On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:36 AM, David D. Kilzer wrote:


Hi FredCK,

I'd recommend filing all of the bugs.  That way if someone else  
gets the notion to create a reduced test case or fix the bug,  
that's less work you'll have to do in the long run!


Please do a cursory search for existing bugs before filing new  
ones as well.  For example, "links are clickable in the editing  
area" may be similar to Bug 11297.  (It took me three searches to  
find that one, though, so don't spend all your time search for pre- 
existing bugs!)  It's better to have the bugs documented and later  
marked RESOLVED/DUPLICATE than to not have them documented at all.


http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11297


I agree with Dave's suggestion. Having the bugs filed is more  
important than level of detail in the bug. We will likely need  
reductions for these at some point to be able to fix them, but  
those don't have to be done at the same time or even by the same  
person as originally filing the bug.


Cheers,
Maciej



Thanks!

Dave


On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:

It is really nice to see that FCKeditor is almost running with  
the nightly.
There are still some bugs, and before I do any move, I would like  
to be sure

this is something acceptable.

I've always tried to create bug reports whithout associating them to
FCKeditor. I simply got a buggy thing in the editor, and reducted  
it as much

as possible to generate precise reports.

All we know how reductions are important. And we also know that  
their
creation take a lot of time. So, the report of bugs were going  
pretty slow.


I've noted instead that, for the TinyMCE editor, there are many  
generic bugs
strictly specifying TinyMCE compatibility. Something like  
"TinyMCE: Format
pulldown doesn't work". Those reports have not so much  
information. Many

times just a line of descrition of the bug.

I have a list of bugs of FCKeditor with Safari. Should I start  
filling

simple "FCKeditor: ..." reports for all of them?

In these way we would all have a clear compatibility status, and  
in the mean
time myself, and others interested would be working for the  
regressions.


Thanks for the information,
FredCK

PS: The following are the current known bugs:

- links are clickable in the editing area
- the "Save" button doesn't update the hidden field before posting
- bogus  remain in the code
- "Templates" doesn't work when inserting in the cursor position
- paste buttons are always disabled
- find dialog doesn't work
- "Remove Format" button adds Apple tag to the code
- enter key inside forms create further forms.
- hidden fields doesn't show up
-  when formatting
- ,  and  have id="undefined"
- the "Link" dialog is not loading correctly
- objects are not selectable and dragable
- "Insert Special Char" doesn't work
- the "Size" toolbar combo has no effect in text
- panels on toolbar items are positioned wrongly
- panels are not hidden when clicking outside them
- context menu icons are not showing
- tables are compressed on creation
- form fields are enabled in the editing area


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Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-12 Thread Maciej Stachowiak


On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:36 AM, David D. Kilzer wrote:


Hi FredCK,

I'd recommend filing all of the bugs.  That way if someone else  
gets the notion to create a reduced test case or fix the bug,  
that's less work you'll have to do in the long run!


Please do a cursory search for existing bugs before filing new ones  
as well.  For example, "links are clickable in the editing area"  
may be similar to Bug 11297.  (It took me three searches to find  
that one, though, so don't spend all your time search for pre- 
existing bugs!)  It's better to have the bugs documented and later  
marked RESOLVED/DUPLICATE than to not have them documented at all.


http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11297


I agree with Dave's suggestion. Having the bugs filed is more  
important than level of detail in the bug. We will likely need  
reductions for these at some point to be able to fix them, but those  
don't have to be done at the same time or even by the same person as  
originally filing the bug.


Cheers,
Maciej



Thanks!

Dave


On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:

It is really nice to see that FCKeditor is almost running with the  
nightly.
There are still some bugs, and before I do any move, I would like  
to be sure

this is something acceptable.

I've always tried to create bug reports whithout associating them to
FCKeditor. I simply got a buggy thing in the editor, and reducted  
it as much

as possible to generate precise reports.

All we know how reductions are important. And we also know that their
creation take a lot of time. So, the report of bugs were going  
pretty slow.


I've noted instead that, for the TinyMCE editor, there are many  
generic bugs
strictly specifying TinyMCE compatibility. Something like  
"TinyMCE: Format
pulldown doesn't work". Those reports have not so much  
information. Many

times just a line of descrition of the bug.

I have a list of bugs of FCKeditor with Safari. Should I start  
filling

simple "FCKeditor: ..." reports for all of them?

In these way we would all have a clear compatibility status, and  
in the mean
time myself, and others interested would be working for the  
regressions.


Thanks for the information,
FredCK

PS: The following are the current known bugs:

- links are clickable in the editing area
- the "Save" button doesn't update the hidden field before posting
- bogus  remain in the code
- "Templates" doesn't work when inserting in the cursor position
- paste buttons are always disabled
- find dialog doesn't work
- "Remove Format" button adds Apple tag to the code
- enter key inside forms create further forms.
- hidden fields doesn't show up
-  when formatting
- ,  and  have id="undefined"
- the "Link" dialog is not loading correctly
- objects are not selectable and dragable
- "Insert Special Char" doesn't work
- the "Size" toolbar combo has no effect in text
- panels on toolbar items are positioned wrongly
- panels are not hidden when clicking outside them
- context menu icons are not showing
- tables are compressed on creation
- form fields are enabled in the editing area


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RE: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-12 Thread Frederico Caldeira Knabben
Hi David,

Thanks a lot for the precision. I'll proceed with it, taking care to avoid
duplicates whenever possible.

Best regards,
Frederico Caldeira Knabben

http://www.fckeditor.net
"Support Open Source Software"




> -Original Message-
> From: David D. Kilzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:37 PM
> To: Frederico Caldeira Knabben
> Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
> Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs
> 
> Hi FredCK,
> 
> I'd recommend filing all of the bugs.  That way if someone else gets
> the notion to create a reduced test case or fix the bug, that's less
> work you'll have to do in the long run!
> 
> Please do a cursory search for existing bugs before filing new ones
> as well.  For example, "links are clickable in the editing area" may
> be similar to Bug 11297.  (It took me three searches to find that
> one, though, so don't spend all your time search for pre-existing
> bugs!)  It's better to have the bugs documented and later marked
> RESOLVED/DUPLICATE than to not have them documented at all.
> 
> http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11297
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:
> 
> > It is really nice to see that FCKeditor is almost running with the
> > nightly.
> > There are still some bugs, and before I do any move, I would like
> > to be sure
> > this is something acceptable.
> >
> > I've always tried to create bug reports whithout associating them to
> > FCKeditor. I simply got a buggy thing in the editor, and reducted
> > it as much
> > as possible to generate precise reports.
> >
> > All we know how reductions are important. And we also know that their
> > creation take a lot of time. So, the report of bugs were going
> > pretty slow.
> >
> > I've noted instead that, for the TinyMCE editor, there are many
> > generic bugs
> > strictly specifying TinyMCE compatibility. Something like "TinyMCE:
> > Format
> > pulldown doesn't work". Those reports have not so much information.
> > Many
> > times just a line of descrition of the bug.
> >
> > I have a list of bugs of FCKeditor with Safari. Should I start filling
> > simple "FCKeditor: ..." reports for all of them?
> >
> > In these way we would all have a clear compatibility status, and in
> > the mean
> > time myself, and others interested would be working for the
> > regressions.
> >
> > Thanks for the information,
> > FredCK
> >
> > PS: The following are the current known bugs:
> >
> > - links are clickable in the editing area
> > - the "Save" button doesn't update the hidden field before posting
> > - bogus  remain in the code
> > - "Templates" doesn't work when inserting in the cursor position
> > - paste buttons are always disabled
> > - find dialog doesn't work
> > - "Remove Format" button adds Apple tag to the code
> > - enter key inside forms create further forms.
> > - hidden fields doesn't show up
> > -  when formatting
> > - ,  and  have id="undefined"
> > - the "Link" dialog is not loading correctly
> > - objects are not selectable and dragable
> > - "Insert Special Char" doesn't work
> > - the "Size" toolbar combo has no effect in text
> > - panels on toolbar items are positioned wrongly
> > - panels are not hidden when clicking outside them
> > - context menu icons are not showing
> > - tables are compressed on creation
> > - form fields are enabled in the editing area


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Re: [webkit-dev] Reporting FCKeditor related bugs

2007-01-12 Thread David D. Kilzer

Hi FredCK,

I'd recommend filing all of the bugs.  That way if someone else gets  
the notion to create a reduced test case or fix the bug, that's less  
work you'll have to do in the long run!


Please do a cursory search for existing bugs before filing new ones  
as well.  For example, "links are clickable in the editing area" may  
be similar to Bug 11297.  (It took me three searches to find that  
one, though, so don't spend all your time search for pre-existing  
bugs!)  It's better to have the bugs documented and later marked  
RESOLVED/DUPLICATE than to not have them documented at all.


http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11297

Thanks!

Dave


On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Frederico Caldeira Knabben wrote:

It is really nice to see that FCKeditor is almost running with the  
nightly.
There are still some bugs, and before I do any move, I would like  
to be sure

this is something acceptable.

I've always tried to create bug reports whithout associating them to
FCKeditor. I simply got a buggy thing in the editor, and reducted  
it as much

as possible to generate precise reports.

All we know how reductions are important. And we also know that their
creation take a lot of time. So, the report of bugs were going  
pretty slow.


I've noted instead that, for the TinyMCE editor, there are many  
generic bugs
strictly specifying TinyMCE compatibility. Something like "TinyMCE:  
Format
pulldown doesn't work". Those reports have not so much information.  
Many

times just a line of descrition of the bug.

I have a list of bugs of FCKeditor with Safari. Should I start filling
simple "FCKeditor: ..." reports for all of them?

In these way we would all have a clear compatibility status, and in  
the mean
time myself, and others interested would be working for the  
regressions.


Thanks for the information,
FredCK

PS: The following are the current known bugs:

- links are clickable in the editing area
- the "Save" button doesn't update the hidden field before posting
- bogus  remain in the code
- "Templates" doesn't work when inserting in the cursor position
- paste buttons are always disabled
- find dialog doesn't work
- "Remove Format" button adds Apple tag to the code
- enter key inside forms create further forms.
- hidden fields doesn't show up
-  when formatting
- ,  and  have id="undefined"
- the "Link" dialog is not loading correctly
- objects are not selectable and dragable
- "Insert Special Char" doesn't work
- the "Size" toolbar combo has no effect in text
- panels on toolbar items are positioned wrongly
- panels are not hidden when clicking outside them
- context menu icons are not showing
- tables are compressed on creation
- form fields are enabled in the editing area


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