Hi,
I have a application which has sessions, but defaults to direct Actions.
As a Apache rewrite of the URLs strips the wosid from the Direct
Adtion URLS,
the session is lost with every click on a hyperlink.
I tried to have the sessions stored in cookies in place of in the
URL. But the
Check your rewrite rule and use [L, PT, QSA] where L - Last, PT - Pass Through,
QSA - Query String Append.
Hope this may help.
Farrukh
On 2010-11-16, at 2:13 PM, ute Hoffmann wrote:
Hi,
I have a application which has sessions, but defaults to direct Actions.
As a Apache rewrite of the
Hi,
thanks a lot, that looks very good!!
Regards,
Ute
Am 16.11.2010 um 12:19 schrieb Farrukh Ijaz:
Check your rewrite rule and use [L, PT, QSA] where L - Last, PT -
Pass Through, QSA - Query String Append.
Hope this may help.
Farrukh
On 2010-11-16, at 2:13 PM, ute Hoffmann wrote:
Hi,
This actually brings me to a question I've been wonder-ing about
Do I need to use WOInstaller.jar to install the base frameworks or do I
just need a script to create the directory structure and embed all the
frameworks into my apps?
If so, which directories need to be
On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote:
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:32 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Many-to-Many relationship and the join table does _not_ have a
compound PK. It has a normal PK with a dataType of Long. The FKs that
represent the to-One
Probably entity modeler should have a validation check that if you check
propagates pk, but the receiving end is not a pk, then it should be an error.
As far as the tool not always doing the right thing, technically the tool did
the right thing when it made his join entity, and then he later
If you DO become iTunes, Google, or Twitter, your app won't scale. Period.
I've never seen a system that scales without investing substantial engineering
effort in profiling and rearchitecture after deployment.
This made it to my wall. I'm going to point at it whenever someone gets
another
Mike, couldn't you just have just left everyone with the cosy misconception
that
we wrote all this code 7 years ago, got it right first time and haven't had
to touch it since?
Alan
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:
If you DO become iTunes, Google, or Twitter, your app
Mike said your app, obviously excluding his apps. ;-)
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
Mike, couldn't you just have just left everyone with the cosy misconception
that
we wrote all this code 7 years ago, got it right first time and haven't had
to touch it since?
Alan
Of course I meant except ours :) That's why my title is Senior Engineer of
Martini-Pouring Services, making sure we're all comfortably numb while we kick
back and relax.
ms
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Alan Ward wrote:
Mike, couldn't you just have just left everyone with the cosy
On 2010-11-16, at 2:11 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Of course I meant except ours :) That's why my title is Senior Engineer of
Martini-Pouring Services, making sure we're all comfortably numb while we
kick back and relax.
OK, the images I'm getting of you folks lounging around a pool sipping Mai
On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David LeBer wrote:
On 2010-11-16, at 2:11 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Of course I meant except ours :) That's why my title is Senior Engineer
of Martini-Pouring Services, making sure we're all comfortably numb while
we kick back and relax.
OK, the images I'm
Le 2010-11-16 à 14:42, Antonio Petri a écrit :
Of course, the sad reality is that our industry loves to just syntactically
masturbate with different languages and pretend that we're much better for it
when the reality is that basically nothing has changed in 30 years in terms
of how we
I think Mike and I should get together and form The Association of Luddites
Named Mike. That quote gives the term syntactic sugar a disturbing twist.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:27 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
I just have to say, Mike is on a role this thread:
1) If you DO become iTunes,
I've never worked with SOAP before, definitely with XML and REST apis. Is
there a good example of how to generate a SOAP request and process the
results. Do WO and/or WOnder have any magic for this?
Any help in pointing me in the right direction would be of great help.
Thanks,
Lon
Hi,
I'm trying to run some unit tests on a new model but for some reason the model
is not getting loaded into the default model group.
If I put System.out.println(EOModelGroup.defaultGroup()); in the static
initializer I can see that the model is not in there. How do I get the model
into
Now that I think of it, I'm not so sure I do agree that every technology sucks.
I certainly can appreciate well-designed elegant technologies that solve a
problem well. That's part of the excitement with this profession. If everything
just sucked most of us wouldn't be in it, well maybe those
On 17 Nov 2010, at 06:49, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 2010-11-16 à 14:42, Antonio Petri a écrit :
Of course, the sad reality is that our industry loves to just syntactically
masturbate with different languages and pretend that we're much better for
it when the reality is that basically
It was for dramatic literary effect ... Obviously every technology has things
that are cool and things that are terrible. However, I have to say that I'm
pretty disappointed that, after 13 years, there isn't a clear choice of a
technology to switch to from WO. For all of its pitfalls, I think
I'm sure a good quant could build a suck correlation matrix and do a complete
analysis...I happen to agree - the only platform I like as much as WO is
Cocoa :)
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
It was for dramatic literary effect ... Obviously every technology has things
It almost amuses me that we having these WO scalability conversations now. 10
years ago it was a ballsy move to use
WO for a big online application. Now I think it's more proven than ever even
though the pace of development has
clearly scaled back. It's funny that none of the newer
Me too. I wish Eclipse copied the Xcode 4 UI.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
I'm sure a good quant could build a suck correlation matrix and do a complete
analysis...I happen to agree - the only platform I like as much as WO is
Cocoa :)
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:40
On 17/11/2010, at 6:03 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
Mike, couldn't you just have just left everyone with the cosy misconception
that
we wrote all this code 7 years ago, got it right first time and haven't had
to touch it since?
Oh the irony ;) such a misconception was surely already the
On 17 Nov 2010, at 09:40, Mike Schrag wrote:
It was for dramatic literary effect ...
That's the way I took it to agree with. But as always your sayings are thought
provoking. Just thought I'd up the provocation. (Isn't that silly provo-k-ing,
provo-c-ation.)
I only have two problems with WO.
The fact that WO hasn't changed so much with time may be a sign that it got it
right from the beginning.
If you look at JEE (or J2EE), which may be considered as a competitor of WO, it
has gone through several major cycles, producing deep changes in the
existing technologies like EJB and
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to run some unit tests on a new model but for some reason the
model is not getting loaded into the default model group.
If I put System.out.println(EOModelGroup.defaultGroup()); in the static
initializer I can see that
Bigger guns in defence of Pascal. Even if one doesn't think of C as being fat
and flabby, C++ certainly is.
This quote comes from John Backus: Can Programming be Liberated from the von
Neumann Style?
http://www.thocp.net/biographies/papers/backus_turingaward_lecture.pdf
1. Conventional
Yes. It is really strange. I'm now loading the Model to the default model
group with addModelWithPath in my JUnit static initializer - which put a
bandaid on the issue.
However, in an application that uses this framework if I put
System.out.println(EOModelGroup.defaultGroup()); in the
Are you not calling WOApplication.primeApplication() in your unit tests? Also,
IIRC, the working directory needs to be the Contents (IIRC) directory of a .woa
or the Resources/Java directory of a framework for NSBundle to find things.
Though with the new bundling from Wonder that may have
if you use the new bundle stuff, you can just run with
-DNSProjectBundleEnabled=true and you'll get models loaded for free.
if you don't you have to either add the models yourself, or prime the
application.
ms
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Are you not calling
No, I was not aware of that method.
My pattern is that I put my models in frameworks and then I create unit tests
per framework to test the model and model related functions. IDK why this one
failed but it is the same process I've been using on my other models/frameworks.
Given that pattern
I tried adding that property to the JUnit Launch Configuration Program
Arguments but it didn't seem to help.
thanks,
Johnny
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
if you use the new bundle stuff, you can just run with
-DNSProjectBundleEnabled=true and you'll get models loaded for
you have to be using the reasonably new wonder 5.4 build to get this ...
however, i've never tried this with launching a junit test from a non-app. i
have no idea what it will do. i honestly don't know how your tests ever worked
without manually adding the models to the modelgroup.
On Nov 16,
OK, LOL. Just lucky I guess. From now on I'll manually load the models.
Thanks a lot,
Johnny
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
you have to be using the reasonably new wonder 5.4 build to get this ...
however, i've never tried this with launching a junit test from a
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
On 16 Nov 2010, at 14:52, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
That's a good distinction about quickly. Seems most get a kick from the
first learning of something to get it quickly happening. Hence
On 17 Nov 2010, at 11:43, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
One student in his experience report mentioned that professional programmers
should spend extra time on making their stuff usable and easily installable
if they are going to expect people to use
Le 2010-11-16 à 19:43, Chuck Hill a écrit :
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
On 16 Nov 2010, at 14:52, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
That's a good distinction about quickly. Seems most get a kick from the
first learning of something to get
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
I think an important distinction here is between expect people to use their
systems and allow people to use their systems. Wonder largely falls in
the second category. I made this because I found it interesting and you
can use it if you
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
On 17 Nov 2010, at 11:43, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
One student in his experience report mentioned that professional
programmers should spend extra time on making their stuff usable and easily
Le 2010-11-16 à 20:55, Chuck Hill a écrit :
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
On 17 Nov 2010, at 11:43, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
One student in his experience report mentioned that professional
programmers should spend extra time on
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 2010-11-16 à 20:55, Chuck Hill a écrit :
I suspect that most people using WO don't care about the cool factor so they
don't spend a lot of time trying to push it. Most of us have been around
long enough to know to disbelieve stories of
Hi Chuck and Pascal;
...and a road map, that might attract people to pitch in and do something. Or
not.
Without wanting to start a long thread on the matter, I imagine that any
level of transparency on the future of this technology would improve
the level of community involvement.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
Hi Chuck and Pascal;
...and a road map, that might attract people to pitch in and do something.
Or not.
Without wanting to start a long thread on the matter, I imagine that any
level of transparency on the future of this technology
Hi Lon,
On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
I've never worked with SOAP before, definitely with XML and REST apis. Is
there a good example of how to generate a SOAP request and process the
results.
If you're doing SOAP and WO, you might be tempted to use Axis since that is
The best marketing is making a better product - either technically or with
improved documentation, accessibility, etc.
I know that's wrong, at least as far as marketers are concerned. Marketeers are
like lawyers - they get paid to defend people and make them look their best
even if they are
WebObjects has been where it is since Apple's acquisition of NeXT. NeXT was
banking on WebObjects as its future, just like BEA WebLogic, SliverStream, blah
blah. WebObjects was $50K per CPU. NeXT had a large enterprise sales force
for WebObjects and there was a large consulting business
Definitely not wasted time. I pushed really hard and got my company to give us
the go ahead on WO this year. It was a hard enough sell to begin with, but if
there was no one updating anything, it would be even worse. The more active
the community is, the more alive WO stays. By letting
On 17/11/2010, at 1:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
And maybe because it's only a very small group of people who try to do some
marketing. Counting the time I took to cleanup the wiki, WOWODC
organization, WOWODC presentations, wocommunity.org,
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Michael Gargano wrote:
Definitely not wasted time. I pushed really hard and got my company to give
us the go ahead on WO this year. It was a hard enough sell to begin with,
but if there was no one updating anything, it would be even worse. The more
active
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Paul D Yu wrote:
All the upgrades to WOnder that's happened recently, where did that come
from? If certain people at certain companies did not get support from a
certain fruit company financially, would there have been all these upgrades
and new capabilities?
On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:
On 17/11/2010, at 1:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
And maybe because it's only a very small group of people who try to do some
marketing. Counting the time I took to cleanup the wiki, WOWODC
On 17/11/2010, at 4:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Maybe we need a Jira space setup for the Wiki?
I think that's a great idea. Sometimes I know how to fix the Wiki when there
is incorrect, stale or contradictory information, so I jump in and do it.
Other times, I know something is wrong, but I
Possibly.
Another thing I think the community needs (I think I put this in the survey) is
a structured set of video tutorials that take you through learning WO and
Wonder. I'm hanging in there, but there is so much stuff, half the time I tell
myself I know someone must have made doing this
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