Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Gavin Eadie]

> On May 11, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Lon Varscsak  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Chuck, if you're out of pocket, I'll be happy to share the load. 
>  

.. I’m out of the WebObjects business now, probably permanently, but I’ll put 
$200 in the pot even though I’m not going to the WOWODC.  Pascal has done 
stellar work over the years and though it may be bitter-sweet to hear that only 
when the crisis arrives, his work made me more successful and I’ll not see him 
out of pocket for no fault of his own .. Gavin
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[David LeBer]

Ditto

-- 
D

On May 11, 2016 at 9:28:19 PM, Chris Klein/IcontactWeb (ckl...@icontactweb.com) 
wrote:

Ditto.

Chris Klein
San Diego EarthWorks


On 5/11/16 at 6:16 PM, spe...@me.com (Steve Peery) wrote:

>I just signed up for a Bronze Sponsorship. It is the least I can do to support 
>Pascal and the WOCommunity!
>
>Steve
>
>>On May 11, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
>>
>>(throws money at screen)
>>
>>http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership
>>
>>We all know what an amazing job Pascal has done.
>>
>>
>>> On 11. maí 2016, at 22:07, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>>> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall. I  
>>>am good for at least that! We are not going to let you get  
>>>caught short on
>this.
>>> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>>> Chuck
>>> From:  
>>>  
>>>on behalf of Ken Anderson 
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
>>> To: Pascal Robert 
>>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
>>> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>>> Pascal, Why would you think we would let that happen to  
>>>you? We will figure it out and make sure you’re not out of  
>>>pocket. What are the
>minimums you have to meet?
>>> Ken
>>> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  
>>> wrote:
>>> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32  
>>>guys at WOWODC, so we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have  
>>>to pay
>from my pockets since I can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
>>> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>>>  de
>la part de Musall Maik 
>>> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
>>> À : WebObjects-Dev
>>> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook  
>>>of all places. I also find it inappropriate to be notified of  
>>>something like this
>on short notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details 
>before it's too late.
>>> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting  
>>>place. One VPS more ore less doesn't make a difference. If  
>>>the hosting
>costs are the main factor, we can eliminate that.
>>> Maik
>>> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
>>> Hi WebObjects fans,
>>> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>>> Pascal Robert
>>> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
>>> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure 
>>> of the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash
>left to pay the expenses of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>>> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
>>> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the
>month. Recordings of WOWODC 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>>> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of  
>>>WebObjects fans I found on the wiki:
>>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>>> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent  
>>>an email to RedHat (openshift) to see if they support it. 1.  
>>>Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your  
>>>are interested to receive updates about the migration? 2.  
>>>Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we  
>>>are distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups).  
>>>3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the  
>>>services maven, jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>>> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet  
>>>"Infrastructure" about the size of the services we are  
>>>talking about. This will help to
>migrate this easily.
>>> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Chris Klein/IcontactWeb]

Ditto.

Chris Klein
San Diego EarthWorks


On 5/11/16 at 6:16 PM, spe...@me.com (Steve Peery) wrote:


I just signed up for a Bronze Sponsorship. It is the least I can do to support 
Pascal and the WOCommunity!

Steve


On May 11, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:

(throws money at screen)

http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership

We all know what an amazing job Pascal has done.



On 11. maí 2016, at 22:07, Chuck Hill  wrote:
  At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I 
am good for at least that!  We are not going to let you get 
caught short on

this.

  Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
  Chuck
   From: 
 
on behalf of Ken Anderson 

Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
To: Pascal Robert 
Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
  Pascal,   Why would you think we would let that happen to 
you?  We will figure it out and make sure you’re not out of 
pocket.  What are the

minimums you have to meet?

  Ken
  On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert 
 wrote:
  I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 
guys at WOWODC, so we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have 
to pay

from my pockets since I can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.

De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
 de

la part de Musall Maik 

Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
À : WebObjects-Dev
Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
  Hi guys,
  I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook 
of all places. I also find it inappropriate to be notified of 
something like this

on short notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details 
before it's too late.
  Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting 
place. One VPS more ore less doesn't make a difference. If 
the hosting

costs are the main factor, we can eliminate that.

  Maik
  Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
  Hi WebObjects fans,
  I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
  Pascal Robert
  21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash

left to pay the expenses of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.

WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the

month. Recordings of WOWODC 2016 will only be available to attendees.
  Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of 
WebObjects fans I found on the wiki:

  
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
  Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent 
an email to RedHat (openshift) to see if they support it.  1. 
Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your 
are interested to receive updates about the migration?  2. 
Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we 
are distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups).  
3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the 
services maven, jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
  Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet 
"Infrastructure" about the size of the services we are 
talking about. This will help to

migrate this easily.

  Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Steve Peery]

I just signed up for a Bronze Sponsorship. It is the least I can do to support 
Pascal and the WOCommunity!

Steve

> On May 11, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> (throws money at screen)
> 
> http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership
> 
> We all know what an amazing job Pascal has done.
> 
> 
>> On 11. maí 2016, at 22:07, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at 
>> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>> 
>> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> From:  on behalf 
>> of Ken Anderson 
>> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
>> To: Pascal Robert 
>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
>> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>> 
>> Pascal, 
>> 
>> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out 
>> and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to 
>> meet?
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> 
>> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, 
>> so we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
>> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
>> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>>  de la part de 
>> Musall Maik 
>> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
>> À : WebObjects-Dev
>> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
>> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
>> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
>> too late. 
>> 
>> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
>> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main 
>> factor, we can eliminate that.
>> 
>> Maik
>> 
>> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
>> 
>> Hi WebObjects fans,
>> 
>> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>> 
>> Pascal Robert
>> 
>> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
>> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
>> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
>> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
>> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
>> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>> 
>> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
>> on the wiki:
>> 
>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>> 
>> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
>> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
>> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are 
>> interested to receive updates about the migration? 
>> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
>> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
>> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
>> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>> 
>> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the 
>> size of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this 
>> easily.
>> 
>> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Lon Varscsak]

I agree with Chuck, if you're out of pocket, I'll be happy to share the
load.

However, I don't know how much we should keep investing beyond this.  Just
my personal (and probably unpopular) opinion.

But, I'd be happy to host this stuff here at SmartPractice indefinitely.

-Lon

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016, Chuck Hill  wrote:

> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at
> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>
>
>
> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * > on
> behalf of Ken Anderson  >
> *Date: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
> *To: *Pascal Robert  >
> *Cc: *WebObjects-Dev  >
> *Subject: *Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>
>
>
> Pascal,
>
>
>
> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it
> out and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have
> to meet?
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  > wrote:
>
>
>
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC,
> so we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> --
>
> *De :* webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com
> 
>  >
> de la part de Musall Maik  >
> *Envoyé :* 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> *À :* WebObjects-Dev
> *Objet :* Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
>
>
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before
> it's too late.
>
>
>
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main
> factor, we can eliminate that.
>
>
>
> Maik
>
>
>
> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa  >:
>
>
>
> Hi WebObjects fans,
>
>
>
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>
>
> Pascal Robert
>
> 21 hrs
> 
>  · Montreal, QC, Canada
>
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure
> of the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the
> expenses of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of
> WOWODC 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>
>
>
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I
> found on the wiki:
>
>
>
>
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>
>
>
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to
> RedHat (openshift) to see if they support it.
>
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are
> interested to receive updates about the migration?
>
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups).
>
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven,
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>
>
>
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the
> size of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this
> easily.
>
>
>
> Many thanks, Bart
>
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Ramsey Gurley]

Good suggestion. I just opened a JIRA here. You can copy paste if you like to 
your own business people.

http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership

I recommend we become Gold or Silver level contributors to the WOCommunity. 
According to the Facebook page, it is nearly insolvent. If that were to happen, 
we are going to need to drop everything to work on self-hosting a lot of what 
they do for us currently at no charge. That includes but is not limited to:

https://jenkins.wocommunity.org
https://wiki.wocommunity.org
https://maven.wocommunity.org
https://github.com/wocommunity/
https://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/WebObjects/5.4.2/

Should nothing change, these will shut down at end of month. We will need to 
begin building our development environments from source. We will not have 
proper documentation to aid in that process. We will not have access to hosted 
dependencies that make building our applications considerably easier. We will 
not even have a reliable place to find Javadocs for WebObjects as Apple no 
longer hosts them. Basically, WebObjects Armageddon.


On May 11, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:

> (throws money at screen)
> 
> http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership
> 
> We all know what an amazing job Pascal has done.
> 
> 
>> On 11. maí 2016, at 22:07, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at 
>> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>> 
>> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> From:  on behalf 
>> of Ken Anderson 
>> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
>> To: Pascal Robert 
>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
>> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>> 
>> Pascal, 
>> 
>> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out 
>> and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to 
>> meet?
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> 
>> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, 
>> so we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
>> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
>> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>>  de la part de 
>> Musall Maik 
>> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
>> À : WebObjects-Dev
>> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
>> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
>> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
>> too late. 
>> 
>> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
>> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main 
>> factor, we can eliminate that.
>> 
>> Maik
>> 
>> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
>> 
>> Hi WebObjects fans,
>> 
>> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>> 
>> Pascal Robert
>> 
>> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
>> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
>> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
>> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
>> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
>> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>> 
>> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
>> on the wiki:
>> 
>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>> 
>> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
>> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
>> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are 
>> interested to receive updates about the migration? 
>> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
>> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
>> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
>> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>> 
>> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the 
>> size of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this 
>> easily.
>> 
>> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[jazzsalsa]

Done :)##SELECTION_END##

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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Ken Anderson]

I'm really hoping to!

> On May 11, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at 
> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>  
> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf 
> of Ken Anderson 
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
> To: Pascal Robert 
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Pascal,
>  
> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out 
> and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to 
> meet?
>  
> Ken
>  
> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>  
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
> we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>  de la part de 
> Musall Maik 
> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> À : WebObjects-Dev
> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Hi guys,
>  
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
> too late.
>  
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, 
> we can eliminate that.
>  
> Maik
>  
> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
>  
> Hi WebObjects fans,
>  
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>  
> Pascal Robert
> 
> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>  
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
> on the wiki:
>  
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>  
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
> to receive updates about the migration? 
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>  
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
> of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.
>  
> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Hugi Thordarson]

(throws money at screen)

http://store.wocommunity.org/products/membership

We all know what an amazing job Pascal has done.


> On 11. maí 2016, at 22:07, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at 
> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>  
> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf 
> of Ken Anderson 
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
> To: Pascal Robert 
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Pascal, 
>  
> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out 
> and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to 
> meet?
>  
> Ken
>  
> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>  
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
> we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>  de la part de 
> Musall Maik 
> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> À : WebObjects-Dev
> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Hi guys,
>  
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
> too late. 
>  
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, 
> we can eliminate that.
>  
> Maik
>  
> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
>  
> Hi WebObjects fans,
>  
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>  
> Pascal Robert
> 
> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>  
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
> on the wiki:
>  
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>  
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
> to receive updates about the migration? 
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>  
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
> of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.
>  
> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Chuck Hill]

At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at least 
that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.

Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.

Chuck


From:  on behalf of 
Ken Anderson 
Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
To: Pascal Robert 
Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

Pascal,

Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out and 
make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to meet?

Ken

On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert 
> wrote:

I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I can't 
meet the minimum set by the hotel.

De : 
webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com
 
>
 de la part de Musall Maik >
Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
À : WebObjects-Dev
Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

Hi guys,

I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I also 
find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short notice 
without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's too late.

Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more ore 
less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, we 
can eliminate that.

Maik

Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa 
>:

Hi WebObjects fans,

I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:

Pascal Robert
21 
hrs 
· Montreal, QC, Canada
With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses of 
WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
2016 will only be available to attendees.

Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found on 
the wiki:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx

Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
(openshift) to see if they support it.
1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
to receive updates about the migration?
2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups).
3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, jenkins, 
wiki, others I forgot

Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.

Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178

[James M. Terry]

Hey Everyone,

I would be happy to host everything...  just need the reqs and i will make it 
happen.

Pascal -- I appreciate all that you have and continue doing for the community.  
Besides counting me in to offset your WOWODC deficit, is there anything else we 
can do to make this transition easier for you?

Thanks,
Jim Terry


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> and Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[jazzsalsa]

Hi Maik,

That is great news that you can host it. I can help with the
migration. 

Who wants to help me to organize WOCommunity 2.0 (new style)? It would
be great to have some feedback on what I sent earlier. Do you like it?
Should we add something? I have some ideas:

- online forum
- website on github linking all pieces together (podcasts on wiki, wiki
pages, maven, jenkins)
- collaboration site
- Office 365 collaboration: word, excel, onenote (sent earlier)

Maybe a skype call is good to talk about this in details?

Best regards, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Ken Anderson]

Pascal,

Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out and 
make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to meet?

Ken

> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> 
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
> we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>  de la part de 
> Musall Maik 
> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> À : WebObjects-Dev
> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Hi guys,
> 
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
> too late.
> 
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, 
> we can eliminate that.
> 
> Maik
> 
>> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa > >:
>> 
>> Hi WebObjects fans,
>> 
>> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>> 
>> Pascal Robert
>> 
>> 21 hrs 
>>  
>> · Montreal, QC, Canada
>> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
>> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
>> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
>> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
>> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>> 
>> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
>> on the wiki:
>> 
>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
>> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
>> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are 
>> interested to receive updates about the migration? 
>> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
>> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
>> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
>> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>> 
>> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the 
>> size of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this 
>> easily.
>> 
>> Many thanks, Bart
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RE: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Pascal Robert]

I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I can't 
meet the minimum set by the hotel.


De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
 de la part de Musall 
Maik 
Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
À : WebObjects-Dev
Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

Hi guys,

I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I also 
find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short notice 
without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's too late.

Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more ore 
less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, we 
can eliminate that.

Maik

Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa 
>:

Hi WebObjects fans,

I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:

Pascal Robert
21 
hrs 
· Montreal, QC, Canada

With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses of 
WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.

WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
2016 will only be available to attendees.

Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found on 
the wiki:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx

Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
(openshift) to see if they support it.
1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
to receive updates about the migration?
2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups).
3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, jenkins, 
wiki, others I forgot

Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.

Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Musall Maik]

Hi guys,

I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I also 
find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short notice 
without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's too late.

Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more ore 
less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, we 
can eliminate that.

Maik

> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa :
> 
> Hi WebObjects fans,
> 
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
> 
> Pascal Robert
> 
> 21 hrs 
>  · 
> Montreal, QC, Canada
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
> 
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
> 
> 
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
> on the wiki:
> 
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>  
> 
> 
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
> to receive updates about the migration? 
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
> 
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
> of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.
> 
> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Michael Kondratov]

What sort of hardware is needed to host the wocommunity? I have a spare Mac and 
Linux servers.

Michael
Aspire Auctions

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> On May 11, 2016, at 2:06 PM, jazzsalsa  wrote:
> 
> Hi WebObjects fans,
> 
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
> 
> Pascal Robert
> 
> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
> 
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
> 
> 
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
> on the wiki:
> 
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
> 
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
> to receive updates about the migration? 
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
> 
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
> of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.
> 
> Many thanks, Bart
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Migration Checklist

[jazzsalsa]

Hi Pascal,

Could you help to provide the needed information for the migration (and
fill in the Notebook below)? Without this information we cannot select
a new hosting provider. Hopefully some of the supporting companies can
support this on-site?

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?page=view=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!111
thkey=!AOEGrmOJ9nP5V6o=onenote%2c

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Closure of WOCommunity Association

[jazzsalsa]

Hi WebObjects fans,

I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:

Pascal Robert
21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the
closure of the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to
pay the expenses of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki
and Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings
of WOWODC 2016 will only be available to attendees.

Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I
found on the wiki:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACc
kRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx

Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to
RedHat (openshift) to see if they support it. 
1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are
interested to receive updates about the migration? 
2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are
distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven,
jenkins, wiki, others I forgot

Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about
the size of the services we are talking about. This will help to
migrate this easily.
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Many thanks, Bart
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