Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti wrote on 2010-11-06 23.33: In general I'm against WYSIWYG editors in MediaWiki also because they often mangle code enough to make the diff function useless. But if you know for sure that there are people who won't live without a WYSIWYG editor, then I can't oppose it

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-08 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Florian, FCKEditor is already disabled since Wednesday last week as per Stefan Weigel's request. Concerning your argument for the WYSIWYG editor: I have ask for people to speak up if they need the editor. So far I have not received a single person speaking up for itself in favour of the

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Manuel, Manuel Schneider wrote on 2010-11-08 09.51: FCKEditor is already disabled since Wednesday last week as per Stefan Weigel's request. thanks a lot! Just because /we believe/ or /fear/ that we need one is a bad argument for it. Sure, let's see what sort of feedback we get. The

Richt-Text Editors (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?)

2010-11-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Manuel! First, nice to meet you ... I hope your (born?) child is well - along with the mother. My best wishes to her! Am Montag, den 08.11.2010, 09:51 +0100 schrieb Manuel Schneider: Hi Florian, FCKEditor is already disabled since Wednesday last week as per Stefan Weigel's request.

Re: Do we need a WYSIWYG for the wiki ? (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?)

2010-11-06 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Christoph, 2010/11/5 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com: Am Freitag, den 05.11.2010, 23:14 +0100 schrieb Volker Merschmann: Sorry Christoph, this was just my/our first guess that morning. It was a fault by somebody who copied text from the preview to the editor, see Stefan Weigels Mail

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/11/2010 Florian Effenberger wrote: believe me - we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor, if we want large contributions to the wiki (which we do). ;) Large in what sense? A large number of contributors or a few contributors making a large amount of work each? I would say that in the first case the

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Michael Wheatland wrote on 2010-11-04 12.56: I thought I better throw my 2cents in here. The WYSIWYG editor you are using is FCKEditor, it is very old, slow and sometimes buggy. The upgrade of FCKEditor is CKEditor, a complete rewrite of the old editor. Much faster and quite easy to

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-05 Thread Nino Novak
Hi, On Friday 05 November 2010 17:05, Florian Effenberger wrote: I'm happy to hear other opinions, but IMHO we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor. Many users will be very uncomfortable otherwise, so I'd even take the risk of slightly defective pages in favor of WYSIWYG. I'd like to argue with Manuel

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-05 14:59, Nino Novak a écrit : Hi, On Friday 05 November 2010 17:05, Florian Effenberger wrote: I'm happy to hear other opinions, but IMHO we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor. Many users will be very uncomfortable otherwise, so I'd even take the risk of slightly defective pages in favor of

Do we need a WYSIWYG for the wiki ? (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?)

2010-11-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Florian, *, Am 05.11.2010 17:05, schrieb Florian Effenberger: * There is currently no real WYSIWIG editor that works[1]. If there were, Wikimedia would use it. I'm happy to hear other opinions, but IMHO we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor. Many users will be very uncomfortable otherwise, so I'd

Re: Do we need a WYSIWYG for the wiki ? (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?)

2010-11-05 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2010/11/5 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org: I personally would never use the WYSIWYG editor. I consider myself as an average skilled user. Do other users need one or ask for one? I don´t know. However, I see Wikipedia without WYSIWYG and most Wikipedia authors are

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote (04-11-10 07:31) the page at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings looks quite ugly now. Did someone screw it up, or is it a configuration error? I loaded it this morning around 6:15 and it was Ok then (still on my screen,

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Florian Effenberger
The first paragraph looks like Discussions of the a href=http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/;Steering Committee/a take place on public mailing lists. and upon first loading, the edit link is only visible for some paragraphs.. :( Cor Nouws wrote on 2010-11-04 07.52: No just

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Cor Nouws
History shows this latest change # (huidig | vorige) 2010-11-04T06:29:15 Floeff (Overleg | bijdragen) (18.154 bytes) Cor Nouws wrote (04-11-10 07:52) Florian Effenberger wrote (04-11-10 07:51) How do the links look like? Here they look really strange, for every link the URL is visible No

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 08.37: I've pinged Manuel through IRC. thanks! He activated the extended editor, maybe someone did not see that. Yes, but why does the editor modify existing pages? Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday 04 November 2010 07:31, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, the page at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings looks quite ugly now. Did someone screw it up, or is it a configuration error? Do you still see strange things? For me, the page looks ok now.

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, (sorry this tends to be a topic for the website-list, but as it started here ...) 2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Nino Novak wrote on 2010-11-04 09.24: Do you still see strange things? For me, the page looks ok now. I do. After some links, there are lots of

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Carlos Jenkins
2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 09.36: I pinged Manuel on IRC (he is always on) and he explained to me that misuse of the so-called FCKEditor can lead to these mistakes. He asks for permissuin to disable the FCKEditor.

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 09.36: I pinged Manuel on IRC (he is always on) and he explained to me that misuse of the so-called FCKEditor can lead to these mistakes. He asks for permissuin to disable the FCKEditor.

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 10.24: He would recommend to do without a WYSIWYG editor as there is none which works really. Manuel said that this is the reason that the Wikipedia also hasn't one. The best workin thing is the toolbar he added yesterday. I'm against it - I know lots

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Carlos Jenkins
2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org believe me - we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor, if we want large contributions to the wiki (which we do). ;) Yes, I suppose we do :( What generated the problem on that page? I mean, yes, the editor, but what use or function or use method

[libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Carlo, * Carlo Jenkins wrote: 2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 09.36:   I pinged Manuel on IRC (he is always on) and he explained to me that misuse of the so-called FCKEditor can lead to these mistakes. He

[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Carlos, Sorry for skipping the s... :-( Here you get two of them: I wrote: Hi Carlo, * \s Carlo Jenkins wrote: \s [...] best regards bernhard (losing his h every now and then...) -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List

Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-04 Thread Carlos Jenkins
Hi Bernhard 2010/11/4 Dr. Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at I disabled it in my user preferences, so I can use the MediaWiki syntax I got used to at the OOo wiki site (I know that is not, what the normal user wants, but I couldn't find out in reasonable time how to position