Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-05 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Ivan,

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote:
 [...]
 I have made a basic horizontal submenu
 on hover (with jQuery for animations - but it works without JS too)
 demonstration at [1].

You forgot to actually include that footnote/the actual link :-)

ciao
Christian

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Re: RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-05 Thread Nik

Narayan,


On 6:59 AM, Narayan Aras wrote:

Hi Nik
1. The website project has no graphic designer on board-why?
By your logic, everyone else has time to be part of every other list. 
Their time is expendable, yours is precious right?
Tell me, how many lists are you a part of? Do you practice what you 
preach or are you just talking sh!+?

You seem to expect a lot of others and deliver very little yourself.

2. There is no planned wireframe/icons for home page, and other sets of pages- 
why?

There is no search functionality on the LibO site, why?
There is no option for users to log in using facebook connect and 
comment on features, why?
There is no website for us Australian LibO users wanting to exchange and 
rate wombat and koala templates, why?
There is no option on the CMS to allow users to upload pictures of their 
grandma's using Impress, why?


Oh my bad, I should probably work closely with this list regarding these 
matters rather than expect that you would read my mind, right?
And I should probably understand that you chaps are busy and my requests 
aren't the most urgent matters you deal with, yes?

Geez, that'd be nice of me!

2. We raced against launch date, missed it and still no graphic inputs-why?

Don't you think someone from your team had to contribute?

I'm probably wasting my time repeating what others have already told you,
so, -snip-.

Please do not search for any motives- We are terribly short of web designer(s).
We are not. We have a Design list full. You wouldn't know because you 
didn't really want to work with us.

You simply want to bring in someone you know from work and are fond of.
If you need to build a better relationship with your workmates, do it at 
work.
Have a beer, shoot some pool, indulge in a little bro-mance, whatever. 
LibO is not your social tool.

The time is running out- The website is far from ready.
And I happened to have access to an excellent source. There is nothing more to 
it.
Interesting, time is running out? who decided that? you? has the site 
gone offline? have the CSS styles dropped out? is there a meteor heading 
towards the LibO servers?
IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNETS ABOUT TO EVALUATE OUR WEBSITE TO DEEM 
IT WEB-WORTHY???

Your matter of urgency seems somewhat self-imposed.
I want the best possible website for LibO as soon as possible much more 
than you do, but I have a better understanding of what possible means 
and I recognise that our community of VOLUNTEERS is working flat-out on 
their respective tasks. I wouldn't be a big enough jerk to impose my 
priorities onto others, let alone onto other lists.  But you don't seem 
limited by these rational concerns.

Regards,
-Narayan

Ooooh this is going to be long, but you've wasted so much of everyone 
else's time, I don't feel obligated not to waste yours.


...


Of course I feel uncomfortable saying this on a list which is not where 
I make my primary contribution to this project, but multiple people have 
tried to reason with you, but you're not open to that. Let me put it 
simply...


I don't know whether you are genuinely interested in the well-being of 
this project, but you don't behave like such a person.

For three reasons;
1. You don't seem to value anyone's opinion but your own.
2. You don't seem to respect people in this community that the community 
respects.
3. You don't seem capable of negotiating or understanding that your one 
vote does not outweigh the vote of many others.


People have tried to steer you gently in the right direction, or 
encouraged you, but your blind faith in your opinion has become somewhat 
of a problem. I've been watching quietly for ages, imagine my irritation 
that I actually have to write this at all? OpenSource projects have a 
fundamental problem in that people who cause delays and argue more than 
they contribute *can't* be /told/ to leave, they have to realise it for 
themselves that they have become a burden. A /burden/, Narayan. You seem 
to be exploiting this loophole a great deal. While I, personally would 
love to see you leave for good, I'm sure others would suggest you take 
some time out and really contemplate whether you are really in this for 
the right reasons; and whether your input is actually benefiting others, 
rather than slowing them down.


If you DO decide to return after that time-out (that I suspect you don't 
think you need to take), when you come back, *DON'T insult the members 
of this community like you have done the last few days*. I'm sure you 
think you're making a mockery of some members of this project, but in 
truth, all I see is how much *you can't /cooperate/*, let alone 
*/collaborate/*. Frankly, you're making an ass of yourself while you 
post smiley faces and assume you're being clever. Members like Charles 
SCHULZ are founding members of this community, no matter what you say, 
they will retain the support and admiration of this community *long* 
after you're gone. How DARE you assume you even 

Re: [libreoffice-website] This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Charles,

Am 05.02.2011 17:53, schrieb Charles Marcus:

 Some of the people on this list whop apparently represent TDF and
 LibO seem to have real attitude problems sometimes.
 
 I didn't make any claim, so have no facts to che3ck. Someone
 complained about *one* of the sites using an SSL cert that gave the
 'untrusted' warning that self-signed certs give, someone else asked
 about buying one, and I merely pointed out a free option.
 
 So, Christian, please refrain from criticizing someone when it is
 not only unnecessary but uncalled for.

You are misunderstanding the context. Please read the thread, before
posting to it. Please consider the rules for quoting on mailing lists.

Thank you.

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Charles,

Am 05.02.2011 18:25, schrieb Charles Marcus:

 No, Stefan, I am not misunderstanding anything. Christian quoted and
 replied to *my* comment. I did read the thread

If so, why did you propose to get a certificate from StartSSL, just
after the main responsible person (Florian) stated in this thread,
that TDF and LibO both do have StartSSL certificates?

;-)

Stefan

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[libreoffice-website] SPAM

2011-02-05 Thread drew
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Pain_Management_Nursing_Jobs




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Re: [libreoffice-website] This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-05 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Charles Marcus
cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 On 2/5/2011 1:10 PM, Stefan Weigel wrote:

 If so, why did you propose to get a certificate from StartSSL, just
 after the main responsible person (Florian) stated in this thread,
 that TDF and LibO both do have StartSSL certificates?

 Because I read threads in received order, and the post I replied to came
 before that one?

 Also, the OP didn't state *which* site he had encountered, but obviously,
 there was *something* wrong with the cert or he wouldn't have posted, right?

I don't have experience with SSL certifiicates, so I don't know how to
troubleshoot.
Having a warning message that we are 'untrusted' on any of our
infrastructure is a major issue.

Can someone who has the knowledge and experience troubleshoot the
problem and inform the list as to what we have to do to avoid this
warning in ALL browsers.

Thanks,
Michael Wheatland

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Re: [libreoffice-website] SPAM

2011-02-05 Thread Wolf Halton
How is it we are collecting spam on the wiki?
On Feb 5, 2011 9:12 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Pain_Management_Nursing_Jobs




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RE: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-05 Thread Narayan Aras

Only some menu items have second level menus. Critically the first two don't 
(but this would change when the why pages are restored to the menu system).

So should the items have a sign (e.g. a downward-pointing triangle) that 
indicates existence of a submenu?

Regards,
Narayan









  
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