[libreoffice-website] Re: Error on LibreOffice.org page

2013-03-01 Thread Marc Paré

Thanks Christian and Camille!



Le 27/02/13 10:15 AM, Camille Moulin a écrit :

Hi Marc,
Thaks for the report.  I have corrected our local file but I don't
think I have writing access to the files in production.
So, could anyone with proper rights fix this ? (or tell me how I fix it ?)

Thanks,
Camille

Le 27/02/2013 16:05, Marc Paré a écrit :

Bonjour Camille,

There is a report from one of our users on the users list. There is an
error on the front page:

We havemany roles for you,...

There is a space missing between have many

I was not sure if you are using Bugzilla for these.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Reisinger
​Hi,

I just noticed, that I didn't send the mail to the list. Sorry for that :)

Yours,

Florian


2013/2/23 Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 It would be used as a productive system, because the current seem to not
 working for 100%.


 Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
 Florian Reisinger

 Am 23.02.2013 um 12:31 schrieb Alin Crețu cra...@gmail.com:

 Hi Florian,


 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.comwrote:


 What I need:

 *FTP access 20-70 MB
 *A very short URL please


 Is this a request for setting up a test/development environment or it is
 intended to be used as production one ?




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[libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Camille Moulin

Hi *,

A  new version of the home page can be tested at:

http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/

It should fix the css problem mentionned by Goran.  It also brings some 
more non mac-ish pictures, thanks to the files provided by Robinson.
The url problem mentonned by Goran actually is linked to transition the 
prod environment.


@Florian or anyone who can put stuff in prod, here is the list of the 
files that have been modified


/www/mysite/css/style.css

 2.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l2.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/bg-logo.png

 3.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l3.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/contributing.png

 4.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l4.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/img_slider_2-1024.png

 5.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l5.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/img_slider_2.png

 6.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l6.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/img_slider_3-1024.png

 7.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l7.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/img_slider_3.png

 8.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l8.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/img_slider_sprite_mobile.png

 9.1  http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l9.1 
 Binary file www/mysite/images/interoperability.png

10.1  
http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l10.1  Binary 
file www/mysite/images/theme.png

11.1  
http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/rev/f9aefda54113#l11.1  Binary 
file www/mysite/images/visio.png


But it seems that the modification mentionned in my mail sent at 22/02/2013 
17:29 are not yet in prod, so please take also into account
www/mysite/javascripts/script.js  
http://hg.aws-dev.alterway.fr/hg/LibreOffice4/file/147452aa447e/www/mysite/javascripts/script.js
  and www/mysite/javascripts/jquery.ascensor.js



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Re: [libreoffice-website] new main homepage and Proprietary software, recognizable iMac

2013-03-01 Thread Marco Menardi

On 27/02/2013 20:00, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Marco,


[cut]


So all people that, like me, believe in Free Software and LibreOffice do
deserve a site that has no Apple on it, and need it *urgently*, don't
you agree?

I agree with you of course and I would help the website team myself if I
have not so much on my table for Libo currently, believe me. But I'm
sure they have understand your message.


But they are still doing nothing about it!!! Is just a matter of 
removing the iMacs (very easy), use the eraser like I did (easy), and, 
even better, move that page to www.libreoffice.org/testpage !!
Give me ftp account (or whatever is needed) to the site and I will do it 
myself.



The only thing I don't agree with you is that the Italian site is an
official site. All languages that are under the LibreOffice domain are
as official as the English one. Also, if you give this url
http://www.libreoffice.org/default in the meantime, you won't see the
offending image any more.



True, but if they click on The document foundation part over the 
home link, they are brought to the Apple/proprietary software advisory.
Also most people is really ignorant in computer usage, often they don't 
write the url in the address bar but put it in google search box, and 
probably if you enter libreoffice there, you will find the 
international homepage.

In any case, again this is just talk and not action.
If for an obvious terrible mistake we have to waste 1 month with no 
result, then means that there is something terribly wrong with the LiBo 
community and the homepage management, right?
Since 2013/02/08 that I've stopped all my activity for QA, bug 
report/triage etc. waiting this issue to be solved.
If web designers don't have time to remove that damaging problem from 
the home, then I've no time for LiBo anymore, in part because has been 
wasted in endless discussions about the subject (really a LOT of hours), 
in part because I'm moving my limited resources to helping projects that 
don't embarrass me as LiBo is currently doing. I'm sure you understand.

Best regards
Marco Menardi

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Marco Menardi

On 01/03/2013 17:02, Camille Moulin wrote:

Hi *,

A new version of the home page can be tested at:

http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/

It should fix the css problem mentionned by Goran. It also brings some
more non mac-ish pictures, thanks to the files provided by Robinson.
The url problem mentonned by Goran actually is linked to transition the
prod environment.


I've checked but I see the same Apple/iMac/we love proprietary 
products, who cares about FOSS? pollution, nothing visible has changed 
in the home and in Discover it part, could you help me in find the 
difference?
Thanks a lot, still hoping you *remove* the current embarrassing home 
and keep developing in http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test until 
all the relevant issues have been solved.

Marco Menardi

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:14:52 +0100,
Marco Menardi marc...@ammdomus.it a écrit :

 On 01/03/2013 17:02, Camille Moulin wrote:
  Hi *,
 
  A new version of the home page can be tested at:
 
  http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/
 
  It should fix the css problem mentionned by Goran. It also brings
  some more non mac-ish pictures, thanks to the files provided by
  Robinson. The url problem mentonned by Goran actually is linked to
  transition the prod environment.
 
 I've checked but I see the same Apple/iMac/we love proprietary 
 products, who cares about FOSS? pollution, nothing visible has
 changed in the home and in Discover it part, could you help me in
 find the difference?
 Thanks a lot, still hoping you *remove* the current embarrassing home 
 and keep developing in http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test
 until all the relevant issues have been solved.
 Marco Menardi
 

No one is going to remove anything untile someone -perhaps you?- have
come up with another design. This is getting ridiculous and
*religious* . 

Marco if you have nothing better to do than shout and complain I
respectfully suggest that this is not the right list for you.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli

Il 01/03/2013 17:02, Camille Moulin ha scritto:


A  new version of the home page can be tested at:
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/


Hi Camille, this looks like the very first version with the Mac even of 
the first page (while today there is a black framed screen on the first 
page).


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Goran Rakic
On Fri, March 1, 2013 17:02, Camille Moulin wrote:
 Hi *,

 The url problem mentonned by Goran actually is linked to transition the
 prod environment.


Is there a reason why we can not keep this code public in tdf's github
repository?

It will be much easier for anyone else on the list to send a pull request.
We could also avoid (embarrassing) issues in the deployment.

I for one will be much more happy to see less Apple products on the
homepage too.

Best,
Goran


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Marco Menardi

On 01/03/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Le Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:14:52 +0100,
Marco Menardimarc...@ammdomus.it  a écrit :


On 01/03/2013 17:02, Camille Moulin wrote:

Hi *,

A new version of the home page can be tested at:

http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/

It should fix the css problem mentionned by Goran. It also brings
some more non mac-ish pictures, thanks to the files provided by
Robinson. The url problem mentonned by Goran actually is linked to
transition the prod environment.


I've checked but I see the same Apple/iMac/we love proprietary
products, who cares about FOSS? pollution, nothing visible has
changed in the home and in Discover it part, could you help me in
find the difference?
Thanks a lot, still hoping you *remove* the current embarrassing home
and keep developing in http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test
until all the relevant issues have been solved.
Marco Menardi



No one is going to remove anything untile someone -perhaps you?- have
come up with another design. This is getting ridiculous and
*religious* .


Indeed insisting with that iMac everywhere is very *religious*, who 
dares to remove that iGod?
My design has been provided in other thread, it's really simple and is 
called eraser in Gimp.
The day that web designers will put a M$Office box on the page and 
someone will complain, you will call it religious?
The only ridiculous thing I see is this blind love to iMac images, the 
untouchable, better destroy the community than change them... isn't it 
ridiculous and *religious*? Don't know what could be more.
The former home page was much better, clean, simple, about *Libo* and 
without proprietary software symbols. Except if you want an 
Apple/proprietary vision promotional message instead...
And finally, what insane approach is this: we put whatever we like even 
if bad/wrong/inappropriate, and we will not remove it until we have 
something else (that someone will judge with the same criteria used to 
put that bad content)? Who is urging and forcing us to have a new home 
page? No one! Put online when is ready.




Marco if you have nothing better to do than shout and complain I
respectfully suggest that this is not the right list for you.


I've contributed my time to OOo and then LiBo for YEARS like a lot of 
people out there that value FOSS and Freedom, I don't think that we 
deserve this home iPage.
I'm really shocked about all this stuff and the fact that iMac in the 
home seems fundamental for LiBo, regardless the damage to our credibility.
I have a lot of free time now that I've stopped my help to LiBo, and I'm 
 spending it defending the project credibility, until I will surrender 
and leave it completely forever.
In the meantime, if you don't want to hear my opinion, forcedly remove 
my account from the list is the only option you have to silent me.

Best regards
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[libreoffice-website] INFRA: old kermit will be shutdown on Sunday

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

this is a last note for everyone having access to our old web server, 
kermit. This machine will be shut down this Sunday.


If you haven't backed up any data you may need, please do so *NOW*.

Following the prior announcement of this, we will not keep backups of 
personal files besides the websites we have migrated now.


If you have any questions, please write to hostmas...@documentfoundation.org

Thanks,
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[libreoffice-website] conference page ...

2013-03-01 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys,

Just trying to plan dates / travel budgets etc. for the LibreOffice
conference and I notice:

http://conference.libreoffice.org/

Is a 404. Any chance of getting a page up there with what was in the
proposal:

September 24 - 27 2013, Milan Italy ...

Just a flat page with that as a placeholder would be lovely initially
if only to help people like me ;-)

Thanks !

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Re: [libreoffice-website] conference page ...

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2013-03-01 18:54:


Just trying to plan dates / travel budgets etc. for the LibreOffice
conference and I notice:

http://conference.libreoffice.org/

Is a 404. Any chance of getting a page up there with what was in the
proposal:

September 24 - 27 2013, Milan Italy ...

Just a flat page with that as a placeholder would be lovely initially
if only to help people like me ;-)


this is a Plone site, which is Andreas' playground, anyone else severely 
lacks any insight - so Cc'ing him here.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] conference page ...

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-03-01 18:57:

this is a Plone site, which is Andreas' playground, anyone else severely
lacks any insight - so Cc'ing him here.


quick update: That the site was down was my bad, started the wrong 
daemon - fixed now. But for getting access or editing, Andreas can help. 
Plone is a blackbox for me...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Florian Reisinger wrote on 2013-03-01 12:23:


I just noticed, that I didn't send the mail to the list. Sorry for that :)


so, sorry to be an annoyance here, but in this case we have to ask the 
board for approval. If TDF officially hosts a second product, thus 
taking liability, the board has to approve. Mind briefly introducing 
your program to board-disc...@documentfoundation.org for approval by the 
board?


Thanks, and sorry for the formalities,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

2013-03-01 Thread Florian Reisinger

Hi,

I will do that ASAP :)

Am 01.03.2013 19:17, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hello,

Florian Reisinger wrote on 2013-03-01 12:23:

I just noticed, that I didn't send the mail to the list. Sorry for 
that :)


so, sorry to be an annoyance here, but in this case we have to ask the 
board for approval. If TDF officially hosts a second product, thus 
taking liability, the board has to approve. Mind briefly introducing 
your program to board-disc...@documentfoundation.org for approval by 
the board?


Thanks, and sorry for the formalities,
Florian




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[libreoffice-website] [Bug 61669] New: BUGZILLA: Create new Product for LibreOffice Android Impress Remote

2013-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61669

  Priority: medium
Bug ID: 61669
CC: jmadero@gmail.com, michael.me...@novell.com,
website@global.libreoffice.org
  Assignee: libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org
   Summary: BUGZILLA: Create new Product for LibreOffice Android
Impress Remote
  Severity: normal
Classification: Unclassified
OS: other
  Reporter: libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de
  Hardware: Other
Status: UNCONFIRMED
   Version: unspecified
 Component: WWW
   Product: LibreOffice

... or find a similar appropriate solution.

This is a spin off from Bug 60766 - BUGZILLA: Remove Android Impress Remote
Versions. We should discuss here what exactly we want to do, and if it's a new
Product (may be additionally new OS?) we can shift it to Tollef and ask him to
proceed.

Currently I am a little doubtful that an own Component is really necessary and
appropriate:

a) do we have enough Bugs? I don't think that we need something like that 
   if we do not get at least 60 Bugs /year (1/week)
   Currently we've got 9 reported between 2012-12-14 ... 2013-02-27
a1) An how (if) will be divide that into Sub components?

b) do we need something so specific? What's with an iPhone / blackberry remote?
   May be we will get other LibO-Related, but not LibO tools (Like Florians
   GUI installer ...). A solution would look like
   Component: LibO-Tools
   Sub Compo: ImpressRemoteControl (We would ask for 2 new OS)
   Sub Compo: Deployment Tools
   Sub Compo: ?1 
   Sub Compo: ?2

   If B we would get back the version problem we currently have with Product 
   LibO

c) May be we worry other users with a separate product. Is it LibO or is it
not?
   And BSA might become more complicated

d) My suggestion:
d1) We leave the current LibO Component
(or may be only Impress Remote Control, see below?)
d3) We think about Sub components (may be Android, iPhone, ...)
d4) In Bugzilla Component text and BSA we ask reporter to add his Version
so that a bug looks like
Product: LibO
Component: Impress Remote Control
Sub.Comp: Android
- Summary: Android V1.0.2: Automatic silent profile smartphone to 
 start a slideshow
d5) Existing bugs will be amended, Versions deleted, and BSA would work
without bigger work

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Re: [libreoffice-website] conference page ...

2013-03-01 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Florian, Michael, Italo,

Am 01.03.2013 19:01, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
 Hi,

 Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-03-01 18:57:
 this is a Plone site, which is Andreas' playground, anyone else severely
 lacks any insight - so Cc'ing him here.

 quick update: That the site was down was my bad, started the wrong
 daemon - fixed now. But for getting access or editing, Andreas can
 help. Plone is a blackbox for me...

it's not a blackbox, it's a CMS ;-)

I'll create a new site for the conference 2013 with more multilanguage
features. The site for 2012 will be running in parallel for now. I try
to migrate the content of 2012 into the new site with a URL for 2012.

@Florian: In which folder should I create the new Plone site with the
content for the Milan conference? What's about a subfolder to
conference.libreoffice.org?

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Le 13-03-01 11:02 AM, Camille Moulin a ←crit :
 Hi *,

 A new version of the home page can be tested at:
 http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/

I think you meant:
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/#0

Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
clearly recognizable but have buttons, which doesn't really address
previous concerns and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
other uses.

Getty Images has a bunch. I trust TDF has some funds to dedicate to
this. Here are a few examples:
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/isolated-light-grey-lcd-computer-monitor-royalty-free-image/127524830
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/blank-lcd-monitor-royalty-free-image/120809421
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/monitor-on-white-background-royalty-free-image/148989087

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Fabian Rodriguez
magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 I think you meant:
 http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/#0

 Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
 clearly recognizable but have buttons,

Just to clear a few things up:

The new pictures are based on images of all-in-one machines made by
ZaReason or System76 (I think they both use the same OEM as their
supplier), such as this one:
https://zareason.com/shop/zima-930.html

This page includes the donated images (along with licensing info, etc..):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Qubit/Images_of_computers

 ...and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
 couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
 other uses.

Do you mean the feet of the computers?

The iMac foot has no toes (if you will.. :-), but the other computer
design has a foot with two toes.

Two toes:
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/mysite/images/img_slider_1.png

No toes:
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/mysite/images/img_slider_2.png
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/mysite/images/img_slider_3.png

Perhaps we could see how img_slider #2 and #3 would look with toes?

In terms of wanting to distance the design from an iMac, what if we
tweaked the color of the foot to make it a little darker or gave it a
tint? I'm not sure how much time such tweaks would take for the
graphic designers, but a small touch might help to alleviate ongoing
concerns...

 Getty Images has a bunch. I trust TDF has some funds to dedicate to
 this. Here are a few examples:
 http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/isolated-light-grey-lcd-computer-monitor-royalty-free-image/127524830
 http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/blank-lcd-monitor-royalty-free-image/120809421
 http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/monitor-on-white-background-royalty-free-image/148989087

Those are all images of computer monitors, not of all-in-one machines.
My task (as I understood it) was just to get images of all-in-one
computers. If the designers here would like me to dig up some images
of computer monitors or other equipment, I'd be happy to oblige.
Please just drop me a note :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] conference page ...

2013-03-01 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi,

Am 01.03.2013 19:59, schrieb Andreas Mantke:
 Hi Florian, Michael, Italo,

 Am 01.03.2013 19:01, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
 Hi,

 Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-03-01 18:57:
 this is a Plone site, which is Andreas' playground, anyone else severely
 lacks any insight - so Cc'ing him here.
 quick update: That the site was down was my bad, started the wrong
 daemon - fixed now. But for getting access or editing, Andreas can
 help. Plone is a blackbox for me...

 it's not a blackbox, it's a CMS ;-)

 I'll create a new site for the conference 2013 with more multilanguage
 features. The site for 2012 will be running in parallel for now. I try
 to migrate the content of 2012 into the new site with a URL for 2012.

 @Florian: In which folder should I create the new Plone site with the
 content for the Milan conference? What's about a subfolder to
 conference.libreoffice.org?
I've created a subfolder with the necessary content for a buildout. I
need only to know the ports that I could use for the site.

Once I get this ports I can bootstrap the buildout from the virtualenv
Python and run the buildout script. The next step is to create the new
Plone site with an URL 2013 (next year would be URL 2014 etc.) and put
some content into the the site. I need for that only some English text
and maybe a nice eyecatcher image.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli

Il 01/03/2013 20:54, Fabian Rodriguez ha scritto:


I think you meant:
http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/#0


This is the right page, without the Apple looking monitors.


Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
clearly recognizable but have buttons, which doesn't really address
previous concerns and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
other uses.


These monitors are completely different from iMacs, and cannot be 
exchanged for iMacs (which have a completely different design, with a 
different border, no buttons, a different foot, and are thinner on the 
sides).


If someone wants to see an iMac in one of these monitors is for two 
reasons: either he has never seen an iMac, which is possible, or he is 
against any renovation of the home page (which was definitely in dire 
need of renovation).


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 Il 01/03/2013 20:54, Fabian Rodriguez ha scritto:


 I think you meant:
 http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/#0


 This is the right page, without the Apple looking monitors.

Not to belabor the point, but I believe that the images on those pages
may include specific design elements from Apple iMacs (perhaps
unintentionally).

 Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
 clearly recognizable but have buttons, which doesn't really address
 previous concerns and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
 couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
 other uses.


 These monitors are completely different from iMacs,

There seems to be some confusion here about what we're displaying on
the website. Just for clarity, I believe the images we're talking
about depict all-in-one computers such as the newest iMacs or
ZaReason's Zima 930.

 and cannot be exchanged
 for iMacs (which have a completely different design, with a different
 border, no buttons, a different foot, and are thinner on the sides).

As I mentioned in my previous email, while one of the images pictured
appears to be a reasonably faithful reproduction of the all-in-one
design sold by ZaReason and System76 (img_slider_1.png), two of the
images do appear to include a foot from an Apple iMac (or perhaps an
Apple Cinema Display) in their design (img_slider_2.png,
img_slider_3.png).

 If someone wants to see an iMac in one of these monitors is for two reasons:
 either he has never seen an iMac, which is possible, or he is against any
 renovation of the home page (which was definitely in dire need of
 renovation).

Hmmm.

Perhaps there's a good way for us to resolve this situation so that
everyone can come out of it feeling like they have achieved the goals
they desire. I believe that in technical terms this is described as
win-win-win :-)

While I believe it's quite possible that elements of an Apple product
are still present in this draft of the website update, let's all
remember that it is just a draft, and mere electronic bits that we can
easily fiddle and fuss over and tweak several times more before we
push a final update to the public front page of the LibreOffice
website.

As I mentioned in my previous email, we can

1. Update the computer images so they have feet with toes (more
chicken, less duck :-), and
2. Tweak the colors of the foot to make the machine look even less like an iMac.

Once we have the new computer designs available, it would be great to
hear feedback from Marco, Italo, Fabian, and others who wish to have
input on the final design before it is deployed. Together, I think we
can make the front page of LibreOffice look amazing!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli

Il 02/03/2013 01:43, Robinson Tryon ha scritto:


There seems to be some confusion here about what we're displaying on
the website. Just for clarity, I believe the images we're talking
about depict all-in-one computers such as the newest iMacs or
ZaReason's Zima 930.


OK, they are not iMacs anyway, and different from iMacs.


As I mentioned in my previous email, while one of the images pictured
appears to be a reasonably faithful reproduction of the all-in-one
design sold by ZaReason and System76 (img_slider_1.png), two of the
images do appear to include a foot from an Apple iMac (or perhaps an
Apple Cinema Display) in their design (img_slider_2.png,
img_slider_3.png).


Why don't we simply take away the foot?


Once we have the new computer designs available, it would be great to
hear feedback from Marco, Italo, Fabian, and others who wish to have
input on the final design before it is deployed. Together, I think we
can make the front page of LibreOffice look amazing!


I do not mind, I am happy with any image.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-01 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Le 13-03-01 07:05 PM, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
 This is the right page, without the Apple looking monitors.

That's strange. When I scroll right to see the two other screens, they
are exactly like iMacs except no logo. Now I notice the first one is the
only one with buttons. It is in fact design by the OEM to look very
similar to iMacs.

 Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
 clearly recognizable but have buttons, which doesn't really address
 previous concerns and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
 couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
 other uses.

 These monitors are completely different from iMacs, and cannot be
exchanged for iMacs (which have a completely different design, with a
different border, no buttons, a different foot, and are thinner on the
sides).

 If someone wants to see an iMac in one of these monitors is for two
reasons: either he has never seen an iMac, which is possible, or he is
against any renovation of the home page (which was definitely in dire
need of renovation).

Twice now I've given feedback, made research, given alternatives in
constructive ways and now this.

If this is how contributions are met, why bother asking? I didn't
realize this was a club. I am done here. Good bye.

Fabian

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