Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Volker Merschmann
Moin,

2011/4/14 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol :
> Am 13.04.2011 10:49, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
>> klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-04-13 07.37:
>>
>>> Up to now: no spam.
>>> Supi
>>
>> cool! Please keep me posted if some more spam occurs, but for the first
>> night, it sounds great.
>
> 2 Spams
>
Yep. And from users that registered yesterday afternoon. :-(

We should investigate what is used by wikipedia.


Volker


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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Am 13.04.2011 10:49, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hi,

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-04-13 07.37:


Up to now: no spam.
Supi


cool! Please keep me posted if some more spam occurs, but for the first
night, it sounds great.


2 Spams

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Re: [libreoffice-website] QA and TCM

2011-04-13 Thread Yifan Jiang


> Have you (Yifan) try it out, yet?

Hello Volker,

Yes, I tried a bit to understand how it works yesterday. The server looked
under tuning or ... I didn't feel it stable.

Some time:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/

refused my connection, but this works fine:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/index.cgi

Just tried it again and looked working properly now.

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[libreoffice-website] Bot for the QA irc session tomorrow

2011-04-13 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Christian, all,


I realized I've completely forgot to ask you if it will be possible to 
have a bot retrieving and load the non confirmed bug on BZ (the same we 
had for OOo irc sessions) for our irc session tomorrow?
I'm really sorry for the short demand, and if it's not possible, don't 
worry, we will do differently.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] QA and TCM

2011-04-13 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi,
On 14/04/2011 05:05, Yifan Jiang wrote:




Have you (Yifan) try it out, yet?


Hello Volker,

Yes, I tried a bit to understand how it works yesterday. The server looked
under tuning or ... I didn't feel it stable.

Some time:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/

refused my connection, but this works fine:

https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/index.cgi

Just tried it again and looked working properly now.


there was some issues with Pootle and I think they are at the same 
server so that might explain Litmus instability, the server has been 
away several time for maintenance yesterday.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] A request for new Japanese (ja) authors

2011-04-13 Thread Makoto Takizawa
Hello Erich and Takeshi.

Could you give me a right?
I would like to help them.

I already registed with this email address( fo...@openship.ivory.ne.jp)

thank you.



On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:17:29 +0200
Erich Christian  wrote:

> Hi Takeshi, *
> 
> Am 07.04.2011 01:55, schrieb Takeshi Abe:
> > Could you register a couple of authors for the Japanese Language
> > site http://ja.libreoffice.org/ ?
> > They are:
> > 1/ name: nakamoto
> >email: bluedw...@bpost.plala.or.jp
> > 2/ name: endo
> >email: y...@neppo.net
> 
> For all new members of the teams:
> Please first register your account at
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/
> and drop a short note here when you're done so we can add you to your
> NL group. We are not up to know your passwords  ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> Erich
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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-04-13 22.33:

Rather something like some online shops provide their customers: After
entering your contact an shipping data the "submit" button calls a
confirmation page showing all Your data inserted. You have then the
joice to either confirm or to correct if You discovered a mistake.

The trick of this: The bot has to handle*two*  forms in sequence. :o))


ah, ok - no, I don't know about such an extension.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *,

Florian Effenberger schrieb:
>Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-04-13 15.07:

>> If I was unclear:
>> With this I think of a mechanism which instead of submitting the
>> data directly calls confirmation page, where You can approve the
>> Data inserted or change before submitting.

>> Does anyone know of such a module?

>what exactly are you talking about? Something like
>http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs ?

No.

Rather something like some online shops provide their customers: After
entering your contact an shipping data the "submit" button calls a
confirmation page showing all Your data inserted. You have then the
joice to either confirm or to correct if You discovered a mistake.  

The trick of this: The bot has to handle *two* forms in sequence. :o))

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Re: [libreoffice-website] QA and TCM

2011-04-13 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Am 13.04.2011 20:40, schrieb Volker Heggemann:

Have you (Yifan) try it out, yet?

It's impossible to login at the moment.
Is the server down? Or did someone change the URL?

This one: https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/
I try.


I tested it and I can log in.
Which message did you get?

k-j



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Re: [libreoffice-website] QA and TCM

2011-04-13 Thread Volker Heggemann

Hello all,

cause of little time, i read this thread just now.

Am 12.04.2011 09:34, schrieb Yifan Jiang:

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:19:05AM +0300, Rimas Kudelis wrote:


One more thing: I took away everybody's superadmin rights and only left
them to the "Litmus Admin" account and Yifan. I sent the changed admin's
password to Sophie, so she can grant superadmin rights to whomever it is
necessary. Right now, it seems a bit complicated to allow certain users
to create/edit testcases without making them superadmins, but this might
be rather easy to fix, and if/when fixed, we should once again demote
most of the superadmins and instead give them only the rights necessary
to manage testcases.

Very good, thanks for your work so far.



Hi Rimas,

Great! Thanks a lot for doing all this! I'll try it out :)

Have you (Yifan) try it out, yet?

It's impossible to login at the moment.
Is the server down? Or did someone change the URL?

This one: https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/
I try.

Best Regards
Volker



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offlist - Re: [libreoffice-website] Plague Captcha

2011-04-13 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Friedrich

offlist - das Thema noch weiter auf der Liste auszubreiten, bringt 
meiner Meinung nach nichts..


Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb:

[...]

I did nothing more than applaud that - where's the problem?


Du vertrittst sehr vehement die Meinung, dass Captcha/ReCaptcha 
vermieden werden sollte - ohne auch nur ein wenig darauf einzugehen, 
dass dieses "Problem" jedes Community-Mitglied nur maximal einmal im 
Jahr trifft.


Das erschien mir - da solche Mails natürlich die MC-Mitglieder 
beeinflussen - überzogen, so dass ich die Relation zwischen Spam für die 
MC-Mitglieder und Aufwand für den Einzelnen wieder etwas gerade rücken 
wollte.


Aber ich habe genug anderes zu tun, um mich hier raus zu halten...

Herzlichen Gruß

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Volker Merschmann wrote on 2011-04-13 16.50:

If you look athttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Log/newusers
it seems that we got the attention of another bot which can manage the
captcha but is not able to validate his mailadresses as the other one
did. So a lot of useraccounts are created but no new pages. Crazy.


indeed, that's really weird. Let's see how things develop. Wikimedia 
seem to use a rather different captcha, might be worth trying that out 
as well.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-04-13 15.07:

If I was unclear:
With this I think of a mechanism which instead of submitting the data
directly calls confirmation page, where You can approve the Data
inserted or change before submitting.

Does anyone know of such a module?


what exactly are you talking about? Something like 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs ?


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi,

2011/4/13 Florian Effenberger :
> klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-04-13 07.37:
>
>> Up to now: no spam.
>> Supi
>
> cool! Please keep me posted if some more spam occurs, but for the first
> night, it sounds great.
>
>> Then someone can spamming us with user-accounts?
>
> As long as he can bypass the captcha: Yes. The only solution around that is
> to manually approve every account.
>
If you look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Log/newusers
it seems that we got the attention of another bot which can manage the
captcha but is not able to validate his mailadresses as the other one
did. So a lot of useraccounts are created but no new pages. Crazy.

Volker

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *,

Florian Effenberger schrieb:
> Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-04-12 01.01:

>> Does anyone know, if there is something like a "confirm Your data"
>> module available. If nagging human users why not do something
>> useful?

If I was unclear:
With this I think of a mechanism which instead of submitting the data
directly calls confirmation page, where You can approve the Data
inserted or change before submitting.

Does anyone know of such a module?

Hmmm, how does Your answer relate to my question?

> I found out that the blacklist IP setting only works when you
> unregistered users edit pages. However, this is disabled in our wiki.

> The following should be effective at the moment:

> - Unregistered users cannot edit pages

> - Registration involves solving a mathematical question (Captcha); if
> needed, it can be enhanced to be a "read the above two words" captcha
> (recaptcha)

> - Registration also involves confirming e-mail accounts

> - Some words and HTML techniques are blacklisted, and editing IPs are
> scanned on blacklists

> I hope this helps in reducing the spam. Please let me know about the
> results, so we can see where there is room for improvement. :)

> Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki spam filter

2011-04-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-04-13 07.37:


Up to now: no spam.
Supi


cool! Please keep me posted if some more spam occurs, but for the first 
night, it sounds great.



Then someone can spamming us with user-accounts?


As long as he can bypass the captcha: Yes. The only solution around that 
is to manually approve every account.


Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Introducing myself

2011-04-13 Thread Alin Cretu
I'd like to use my first e-mail to introduce myself.

The name is Alin Crețu, I'm 35 years old, currently living in Germany.

I've been working/playing with Red Hat Linux since RH 5.2, CentOS since
CentOS 3 and with Fedora since it's first release 8 years ago.

I can find my way around bash and ksh scripting, I have considerable
understanding and some real life experience with large storage (NAS and SAN)
installations.

For the last 10 years I was working with Linux/Unix in different production
environments, from small departmental (2-3 systems) up to large enterprise
(200+ Unix/Linux machines with high availability requirements)
installations.

Since June 2007 I'm also certified as "IBM Certified Advanced Technical
Expert -- IBM System p5 2006"

I'm interested in helping out with management/operations of the back-end
infrastructure necessary to be handled and operated for this project.
In particular I'm interested to be involved in one or more of the following
areas:
- Linux or AIX systems administration.
- new systems provisioning, installation and deployment
- complete infrastructure monitoring
- storage infrastructure management
- data protection (backup/restore) and disaster recovery planing
- virtualization
- infrastructure for mirroring and data replication

Please feel free to contact me directly (via e-mail) in case you think I
might be able to help in any of these areas.


Regards,
Alin Crețu

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