[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link
Le 2013-01-30 02:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-29 23:23: Could you try again? It doesn't seem to work. (Note I am just clicking on the link in the text up-above. hm, seems the original mail contained two different links. I had this one in place: Redirect /welcome/helpme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme I've now changed it to Redirect /welcome/readme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme Florian Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link
Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19: Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? yes. :-) You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when you opened the page previously, since it's still cached. Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link
Le 2013-01-30 03:25, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19: Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? yes. :-) You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when you opened the page previously, since it's still cached. Florian Thanks! My fault ... malformed URL. Doh! :-) Works! -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice.org new homepage concept
Michael, We are not picking this proposal for the release.. Weare alreadyworking on a different proposal for the 4.0 and I would ask everyone to stop sending proposals we never asked for. Habe you decided to make this release unmanageable marks wise? Thanks, Charles. Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit : On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 17:39 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Yes indeed, I forgot to tell you that. I assumed it was a given. You have to be logged in Silverstripe through here https://www.libreoffice.org/proposedhome/?stage=Stage I like it - it looks rather cleaner; nice to have the download on the front-page [ though I agree best to test on staging ]. For me the rendering in firefox (I'm prolly zoomed in or something odd with larger fonts) was not perfect: http://users.freedesktop.org/~michael/firefox.png The legend at the top is fun; but I guess the wrapping makes it larger than expected ? Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice.org new homepage concept
Hi Charles, On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 10:35 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: We are not picking this proposal for the release.. Weare alreadyworking on a different proposal for the 4.0 and I would ask everyone to stop sending proposals we never asked for. Sorry pardon; Issa is someone with the skills and time to do something useful here - he's a friendly guy and I'm sure he's happy to work with other people on delivering a shared vision: I assume that is possible - if so, how ? Habe you decided to make this release unmanageable marks wise? I was unaware that anything was actually going on elsewhere, and (to my mind) any kind of incremental improvement to what we have would be welcome after months of stasis. If there is a wider plan then clearly broader project visibility into that would be good; preferably including something we can just browse to and see / interact with :-) [click here to see the new website mockup]. Sorry if there is some unwitting overlap of work here, ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link
I get redirected to http://de.libreoffice.org/welcome/helpme.html which is a 404... so maybe only directing if there is a localized version, otherwise to the EN version... Regards, Dennis 2013/1/30 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Le 2013-01-30 03:25, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19: Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? yes. :-) You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when you opened the page previously, since it's still cached. Florian Thanks! My fault ... malformed URL. Doh! :-) Works! -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link
Hi, Dennis Roczek wrote on 2013-01-30 16:17: I get redirected tohttp://de.libreoffice.org/welcome/helpme.html which is a 404... from where do you get redirected there? Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] kermit load problems
Hello, Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-01-30 17:36: The bad news: We are experiencing a massive load on kermit, our web server. a quick update: It seems to be related to the Silverstripe cache. After purging it again, the situation is better. Hopefully for a while, the infra team is monitoring it... Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Ask site: Canning our SPAM problem
Hi everyone, We've been dealing with a bunch of SPAM on the Ask site over the last couple of weeks. We recently enabled moderation on user content in an attempt to stem the vandalism of the front page, and I've spent the last couple of days investigating some possibilities for the site. As you might expect, I haven't found any silver bullets, but I do have a few suggestions that can help us manage the problem. Based on my research on the Askbot.org site, a number of SEO-driven spammers have taken to posting on Askbot sites. It's not clear what percentage of these postings are run by scripts, but it's my understanding that some of the spammers are using some form of automation. On the AskLibo site, we're seeing not only SPAM in questions, but we're seeing SPAM in _follow-up_ answers as well. These guys are organized, and probably aren't just going to go away. The Askbot software includes a few different mechanisms for dealing with spam and malicious users: - Content Deletion - User Bans/Blocks - Content Moderation - Registration Limitations - Akismet SPAM protection/detection Content Deletion and User Bans/Blocks are pretty straightforward. Mods, Admins, and some users with high karma may delete content from the site. Users with less karma may flag content. All users spamming the site are banned (it's been pretty cut-n-dry up to this point). Content Moderation entails all user content going into a queue that is reviewed by the mods and then accepted for the site or deleted. This is what we have enabled right now. Since we've enabled Content Moderation, the spam on the site has basically disappeared [1]. We've approved a lot of content by legitimate users, and we've banned and deleted a number of spammers/spam content. From the moderator side, Manfred (@manj_k) and I both agree that enabling moderation has given us more work, since we want to make sure that content does not sit for long in the moderation queue. That being said, before moderation was enabled, SPAM would sometimes sit on the site for hours at a time, and I've heard multiple LO users/contributors refer to the site as a SPAM pit or totally messed up. We've also run into some hiccups with the moderation interface which prevented us from actually being able to approve any questions. From the user side, we've only gotten feedback from a few Ask users. Reception was mixed, with an overall feeling that moderation is an acceptable short-term solution, but needs a better long-term fix. One of the users suggested... (a perfect segue) ...Registration Limitations Other sites have used registration limitations to reduce/eliminate spam on their Askbot site. One mechanism suggested to us was to require our users to have an email address from a paid provider. That is, no gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc... accounts would be allowed (at least not during registration). The suggestion is clever and powerful, and could probably serve as an excellent filter on spam, but my concern with such a proposal is that many legitimate users rely on a free provider for their email, and such an hard rule might discourage many of our meekest users from participating on the site and getting help from us. Next up in our quiver of features is Akismet SPAM protection/detection. I don't know too much about this product, but it's basically an external SPAM-filtering service. People rave about it on this wordpress page[2], and I've seen it in action on a Wordpress hosted blog. To quote Ron Popeil, you set it and forget it. There are two possible issues with Akismet, (1) it ain't Free, and (2) it ain't free. (1) As a hosted, commercial solution, Akismet is running some proprietary software stack. So no Free/Libre/Open Source Software love here. (2) Akismet is free for (some) personal use, but costs something more in all other cases[3]. That might be $50/month, $100/month, or they might just be nice and give us some kind of discount. It's pretty nebulous here. I'm not sure whether (1) or (2) would preclude Akismet being used in the LO infrastructure, but I figured I'd include the software/service in the list and let someone else tell me the rules :-) --- That mostly sums-up what's present in the Askbot software *right now*. There are some other options that have been proposed for future development in Askbot including IP-based tools (Blocking by IP, User identification by IP, etc..), karma-based moderation, and group-based moderation. Some of these ideas are discussed on the Askbot site for Askbot[4]. I've asked a couple of questions on the Askbot.org site[5] and have received very prompt replies from the creator of the software, Evgeny Fadeev. One proposal I made was to allow mods to tweak the application of Content Moderation so that it only applies to a certain subgroup of users, for example: * All users with karma MIN_KARMA_TO_SKIP_MODERATION * All users who are not in a group flagged to SKIP_MODERATION, or * All users whose account is younger than
Re: [libreoffice-website] Ask site: Canning our SPAM problem
I think on all sites Recaptcha should be enabled, It would help to stem as well spam on the site and block spam users at registration. its owned by google and free to use. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, We've been dealing with a bunch of SPAM on the Ask site over the last couple of weeks. We recently enabled moderation on user content in an attempt to stem the vandalism of the front page, and I've spent the last couple of days investigating some possibilities for the site. As you might expect, I haven't found any silver bullets, but I do have a few suggestions that can help us manage the problem. Based on my research on the Askbot.org site, a number of SEO-driven spammers have taken to posting on Askbot sites. It's not clear what percentage of these postings are run by scripts, but it's my understanding that some of the spammers are using some form of automation. On the AskLibo site, we're seeing not only SPAM in questions, but we're seeing SPAM in _follow-up_ answers as well. These guys are organized, and probably aren't just going to go away. The Askbot software includes a few different mechanisms for dealing with spam and malicious users: - Content Deletion - User Bans/Blocks - Content Moderation - Registration Limitations - Akismet SPAM protection/detection Content Deletion and User Bans/Blocks are pretty straightforward. Mods, Admins, and some users with high karma may delete content from the site. Users with less karma may flag content. All users spamming the site are banned (it's been pretty cut-n-dry up to this point). Content Moderation entails all user content going into a queue that is reviewed by the mods and then accepted for the site or deleted. This is what we have enabled right now. Since we've enabled Content Moderation, the spam on the site has basically disappeared [1]. We've approved a lot of content by legitimate users, and we've banned and deleted a number of spammers/spam content. From the moderator side, Manfred (@manj_k) and I both agree that enabling moderation has given us more work, since we want to make sure that content does not sit for long in the moderation queue. That being said, before moderation was enabled, SPAM would sometimes sit on the site for hours at a time, and I've heard multiple LO users/contributors refer to the site as a SPAM pit or totally messed up. We've also run into some hiccups with the moderation interface which prevented us from actually being able to approve any questions. From the user side, we've only gotten feedback from a few Ask users. Reception was mixed, with an overall feeling that moderation is an acceptable short-term solution, but needs a better long-term fix. One of the users suggested... (a perfect segue) ...Registration Limitations Other sites have used registration limitations to reduce/eliminate spam on their Askbot site. One mechanism suggested to us was to require our users to have an email address from a paid provider. That is, no gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc... accounts would be allowed (at least not during registration). The suggestion is clever and powerful, and could probably serve as an excellent filter on spam, but my concern with such a proposal is that many legitimate users rely on a free provider for their email, and such an hard rule might discourage many of our meekest users from participating on the site and getting help from us. Next up in our quiver of features is Akismet SPAM protection/detection. I don't know too much about this product, but it's basically an external SPAM-filtering service. People rave about it on this wordpress page[2], and I've seen it in action on a Wordpress hosted blog. To quote Ron Popeil, you set it and forget it. There are two possible issues with Akismet, (1) it ain't Free, and (2) it ain't free. (1) As a hosted, commercial solution, Akismet is running some proprietary software stack. So no Free/Libre/Open Source Software love here. (2) Akismet is free for (some) personal use, but costs something more in all other cases[3]. That might be $50/month, $100/month, or they might just be nice and give us some kind of discount. It's pretty nebulous here. I'm not sure whether (1) or (2) would preclude Akismet being used in the LO infrastructure, but I figured I'd include the software/service in the list and let someone else tell me the rules :-) --- That mostly sums-up what's present in the Askbot software *right now*. There are some other options that have been proposed for future development in Askbot including IP-based tools (Blocking by IP, User identification by IP, etc..), karma-based moderation, and group-based moderation. Some of these ideas are discussed on the Askbot site for Askbot[4]. I've asked a couple of questions on the Askbot.org site[5] and have received very prompt replies from the creator of the software, Evgeny
[libreoffice-website] CMS updates
I recieve CMS updates im guessing from silverstripe, and for some reason google is saying they are possibly phishing scams. I am not sure if there is a way to eliminate those messages as those are legitimate. The last one I just deleted was a change made by andreas of the l10n team. -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Ask site: Canning our SPAM problem
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: I think on all sites Recaptcha should be enabled, It would help to stem as well spam on the site and block spam users at registration. its owned by google and free to use. Sounds like a good plan to me. One of the questions I posed at the Askbot site was about CAPTCHA integration: http://askbot.org/en/question/9874/how-can-i-integrate-captcha-into-account-creationregistration/ If we were to roll our own (RE)CAPTCHA solution for our Ask site, I'm pretty sure that upstream would be receptive to our patches. --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Ask site: Canning our SPAM problem
No need to re roll anything all you have to do and anyone with a google account can sign up with it if there is a plugin all you need to do is provide the recaptcha keys. Its very simple to do and integrate i am running 12 wordpress sites and they are all using it. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: I think on all sites Recaptcha should be enabled, It would help to stem as well spam on the site and block spam users at registration. its owned by google and free to use. Sounds like a good plan to me. One of the questions I posed at the Askbot site was about CAPTCHA integration: http://askbot.org/en/question/9874/how-can-i-integrate-captcha-into-account-creationregistration/ If we were to roll our own (RE)CAPTCHA solution for our Ask site, I'm pretty sure that upstream would be receptive to our patches. --R -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
