Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-09-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hello Robinson,

Am 07.09.2014 um 12:02 schrieb Robinson Tryon:
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello,

 the current Extensions- and Templates-Site is running on Plone with some
 addons. There has some complains about the usability of the site and
 thus I decided to work on an improvement.
 ...
 You can get an account on that site. There is no self registration
 enabled yet.
 I can't remember if I've asked already, but could I please have an
 account for the site?

you should have mail ;-)

I gave you a regular user account. If you want another account with
different permissions please get back to me and provide a different
mail-address (every account is tied to a mail-address).

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-09-07 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello,

 the current Extensions- and Templates-Site is running on Plone with some
 addons. There has some complains about the usability of the site and
 thus I decided to work on an improvement.
 ...
 You can get an account on that site. There is no self registration
 enabled yet.

I can't remember if I've asked already, but could I please have an
account for the site?

Thanks,
--R

P.S. HEY, PEOPLE! -- You should get accounts and test out the site as well! :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-18 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 08/12/2014 10:08 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:

The user has to work with two content types. He creates a project first
and adds a release with up to currently five extension-files to it (we
can change that).


The up to [...] five extension-files [per release] is intended for 
platform-specific extensions that provide different .oxt files for 
different platforms?


Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Robinson Tryon schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:50:

Would it make sense to build some functionality into this website to
handle version compatibility, or should we just file bugs in redmine
against particular extensions?


I propose to link to the author's mail address. It doesn't make much 
sense to link to Redmine, when the authors don't use it. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi Florian,

although I think this would be great (btw: can we add something like an 
URL, sometimes this is useful...), we cannot do this for

a) existing extension (except the author response and give his OK)
and b) reserve a possibility that not every author do want to publish 
his mail address

can we maybe add something like an alternative contact form?

Regards,

Dennis Roczek

Am 13.08.2014 10:54, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hi,

Robinson Tryon schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:50:

Would it make sense to build some functionality into this website to
handle version compatibility, or should we just file bugs in redmine
against particular extensions?


I propose to link to the author's mail address. It doesn't make much
sense to link to Redmine, when the authors don't use it. :-)

Florian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Dennis Roczek schrieb am 2014-08-13 um 11:43:


although I think this would be great (btw: can we add something like an
URL, sometimes this is useful...), we cannot do this for
a) existing extension (except the author response and give his OK)
and b) reserve a possibility that not every author do want to publish
his mail address
can we maybe add something like an alternative contact form?


I leave that to Andreas, I can't get too deply involved here - sounds 
fine for me as well, of course.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Andreas,

Andreas Mantke schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:08:

the current Extensions- and Templates-Site is running on Plone with some
addons. There has some complains about the usability of the site and
thus I decided to work on an improvement. I created two new Plone addons


thanks a lot for your work on this, it's much appreciated!
I hope to receive lots of feedback - the extensions and templates site 
is one of the most important ones in the LibreOffice ecosystem, and the 
more feedback we get, the better we can suit it to the needs of the 
community.


Thanks again,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Robinson Tryon schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:50:
 Would it make sense to build some functionality into this website to
 handle version compatibility, or should we just file bugs in redmine
 against particular extensions?

 I propose to link to the author's mail address. It doesn't make much sense
 to link to Redmine, when the authors don't use it. :-)

Sure, that makes sense. Here's an example of the current workflow that
I'm hoping to address:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/603

I think there needs to be a better mechanism for QA (and others) to
identify and flag/update extensions that have fallen-behind in
development.

--R

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Robinson,

Am 13.08.2014 um 18:28 schrieb Robinson Tryon:
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Florian Effenberger
 flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Robinson Tryon schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:50:
 Would it make sense to build some functionality into this website to
 handle version compatibility, or should we just file bugs in redmine
 against particular extensions?
 I propose to link to the author's mail address. It doesn't make much sense
 to link to Redmine, when the authors don't use it. :-)
 Sure, that makes sense. Here's an example of the current workflow that
 I'm hoping to address:
 https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/603

 I think there needs to be a better mechanism for QA (and others) to
 identify and flag/update extensions that have fallen-behind in
 development.
I got this ticket but the extension is flagged for LibreOffice 3.5 and
3.6 only. If there is something broken with that versions it would be an
issue.

If someone wants to work on that extension and create a new release for
LibreOffice 4.2 or 4.3 I'm happy to assist with the extensions-site.

But I think it's not a good idea to delist/delete etc. an extension that
is flagged for an older version of LibreOffice. It may also be an issue
from the license perspective (depends on the license):

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Denis, Florian, Robinson, *,

Am 13.08.2014 um 11:43 schrieb Dennis Roczek:
 Hi Florian,

 although I think this would be great (btw: can we add something like
 an URL, sometimes this is useful...), we cannot do this for
 a) existing extension (except the author response and give his OK)
 and b) reserve a possibility that not every author do want to publish
 his mail address
 can we maybe add something like an alternative contact form?

the email-address or a link to a project resource is available inside
the current extensions-site and an email-address has to be submitted
with the form, but this personal information will not published on the web.

It's possible to contact the author of an extension, if you are logged
in. There will be an addon that makes the contact-form available to
anonymus user (with captcha):
http://plone.org/products/collective.contactauthor

I've not tested it myself.

 Regards,

 Dennis Roczek

 Am 13.08.2014 10:54, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
 Hi,

 Robinson Tryon schrieb am 2014-08-12 um 22:50:
 Would it make sense to build some functionality into this website to
 handle version compatibility, or should we just file bugs in redmine
 against particular extensions?

 I propose to link to the author's mail address. It doesn't make much
 sense to link to Redmine, when the authors don't use it. :-)

+1
That would put the burden on the site-admins to forward the information
to the author.

I looked around for an issue tracker inside Plone:
http://plone.org/products/poi

But I read about complaints that it went into a spam sink. Thus I would
not propose to use it (would need some extra development of that addon
to get robots etc. out)

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-13 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 13.08.2014 um 18:28 schrieb Robinson Tryon:
 I think there needs to be a better mechanism for QA (and others) to
 identify and flag/update extensions that have fallen-behind in
 development.
 I got this ticket but the extension is flagged for LibreOffice 3.5 and
 3.6 only. If there is something broken with that versions it would be an
 issue.

 If someone wants to work on that extension and create a new release for
 LibreOffice 4.2 or 4.3 I'm happy to assist with the extensions-site.

 But I think it's not a good idea to delist/delete etc. an extension that
 is flagged for an older version of LibreOffice. It may also be an issue
 from the license perspective (depends on the license):

I'm more than happy to keep the extension listed on the site,
especially if there's hope that someone else might see the extension
and elect to update the code behind it to work with modern builds.

That being said, I think our #1 priority with the extension site is
providing a good experience to our userbase, so we need to make sure
that the interface makes it abundantly clear which versions of
LibreOffice are supported by a given extension. If someone tests an
extension with a newer version of LO and it works (or fails), we
should try to have some mechanism to make it possible for that
information to be collected and provided in a structured fashion back
to other users. People shouldn't just have to guess-and-check when
installing extensions.

--R

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[libreoffice-website] Extensions-Site-New: Current Dev-Status

2014-08-12 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hello,

the current Extensions- and Templates-Site is running on Plone with some
addons. There has some complains about the usability of the site and
thus I decided to work on an improvement. I created two new Plone addons
(one for extensions and the second for templates). I worked on the addon
for extensions first and implemented a new more flat hierarchy of
content types (only three):
- extension center
- extension project
- extension release.

The user has to work with two content types. He creates a project first
and adds a release with up to currently five extension-files to it (we
can change that).

I implemented only the content types yet. Before I go further with the
development I'd like to get some feedback on the content types and their
features. Is there something missing etc.

Once the missing features etc. are implemented I will start to implement
the site workflow  and adjust the permissions.

Beside that I'll work on the search feature of the extension center. The
form and the links to the categories are not working yet.

The test-site is not themed yet. It's plain Plone style apart from some
hard coded styles.
I'll work on a new Diazo theme for the site. I'll need volunteers with
some design skills and deeper knowledge in CSS.

After finishing all the above steps the content of the current
LibreOffice Extensions- and Templates-Site could be transmogrified to
the new site.

The new test site is available at:
http://vm5.documentfoundation.org:9095/LibO-Ext-Temp-Test/en/extensions

You can get an account on that site. There is no self registration
enabled yet.

Regards,
Andreas

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