Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-06 Thread Elad Alfassa
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.comwrote: But lets look at the current one first. What's in: 1. search -- superfluous, current web browsers have search integrated in their UIs and in my experience people use it True. Furthermore having a Google powered

Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Elad Alfassa
This message is sent to two lists: websites and desktop. start.fedoraproject.org has many problems [0], mainly: 1) it's ugly 2) it doesn't serve a clear function 3) It's one of the first things people trying Fedora will see, so it'll effect their opinion about Fedora. I suggest we just drop this

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Ryan Lerch
On 05/10/12 10:30, Elad Alfassa wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Kévin Raymond shai...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Elad Alfassa e...@fedoraproject.org start.fedoraproject.org has many problems [0], mainly: 1) it's ugly You can help I've tried, but the

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Kévin Raymond
3) It's one of the first things people trying Fedora will see, so it'll effect their opinion about Fedora. I suggest we just drop this page completely and use the default firefox about:home start page instead. Thoughts? As seen before this page is used, to get people on the Planet.

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Elad Alfassa
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Kévin Raymond shai...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: 3) It's one of the first things people trying Fedora will see, so it'll effect their opinion about Fedora. I suggest we just drop this page completely and use the default firefox about:home start page

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Kévin Raymond
I am happy to help with a resign and decluttering of that page if needs be! Do you have any links to the discussion about the design team agreeing it is useless? Seeing past discussions on this will help in designing a better page. Yes, link [0] in my original message. Plus all other

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 04:35:28PM +0200, Kévin Raymond wrote: So the real question is: Do we want this page to be contributor or end user centric? As we try to keep both with a simple page, it could not work easily. Making the page user-centric makes sense, but remember our target users are

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread manuel . schnecki
I agree in points 2 and 3. However, I wouldn't drop it. I suggest a welcome page with useful information for newcomers, e.g. links to videos (html5, flash might not be installed) etc. But I agree that it doesn't provide a clear function at all. On 05.10.12 04:21 PM Elad Alfassa wrote: This

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Elad Alfassa (e...@fedoraproject.org) said: I suggest we just drop this page completely and use the default firefox about:home start page instead. Thoughts? I'd agree that it's probably not getting the best use out right now, but I don't know that a FF specific page is better.

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 16:21 +0200, Elad Alfassa wrote: start.fedoraproject.org has many problems [0], mainly: 1) it's ugly 2) it doesn't serve a clear function 3) It's one of the first things people trying Fedora will see, so it'll effect their opinion about Fedora. I suggest we just

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 16:21:43 +0200, Elad Alfassa e...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I suggest we just drop this page completely and use the default firefox about:home start page instead. Thoughts? I actually like about:blank . -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Drop start.fedoraproject.org in favour of about:home

2012-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 11:07:31AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Elad Alfassa e...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I suggest we just drop this page completely and use the default firefox about:home start page instead. Thoughts? I actually like about:blank . With Firefox 13+, I like about:newtab