Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Chaoyi Zha
Máirín, To clarify, I really liked your design, but I was just a little unsure whether the centre magazine widget really applies to the end user. I misread Fedora magazine for Fedora planet. Fmag is a good source :) Thanks, On Aug 27, 2014 2:21 PM, "Bill Nottingham" wrote: > Máirín Duffy (du...

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Máirín Duffy (du...@fedoraproject.org) said: > On 08/26/2014 04:17 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: > >Mo is actually working on some mockups for a redesign right now, after > >a short discussion we had about this on IRC. > >We are making some progress. If it doesn't work well we could have > >Fedora Magaz

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 08/27/2014 01:48 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: verges a little towards overkill to me; perhaps remove one or both of the magazine links in the top/bottom bar? The 'Read more at fedoramagazine.org' could be moved into the center content section. the lower magazine link is more like, "here's 5

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > > On 08/27/2014 11:16 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote: > > Perhaps, can you get rid of the clutter around the sides, and just > > have one, primary, emphasized point? Kind of like Firefox and Google's > > homepages. > > The primary emphasis is on the updated content stream

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 08/27/2014 11:16 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote: Perhaps, can you get rid of the clutter around the sides, and just have one, primary, emphasized point? Kind of like Firefox and Google's homepages. The primary emphasis is on the updated content stream that (normally) is geared towards users. The ve

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Chaoyi Zha
Perhaps, can you get rid of the clutter around the sides, and just have one, primary, emphasized point? Kind of like Firefox and Google's homepages. One point that we would like to get across to the user. If I had any experience in design, I would put a search box, a support link, a small box with

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 08/27/2014 10:43 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote: Looks pretty. I like the design, but perhaps we can make it a little more useful? The blog entries in the middle and some of the other blocks clutter the page quite a bit. Can you make it more minimalistic, so that people will keep it as their homepage?

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Chaoyi Zha
Looks pretty. I like the design, but perhaps we can make it a little more useful? The blog entries in the middle and some of the other blocks clutter the page quite a bit. Can you make it more minimalistic, so that people will keep it as their homepage? On Aug 27, 2014 10:39 AM, "Michael Catanzaro"

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 16:56 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Here is what we have right now: > > http://i.imgur.com/TJeZmYB.png Well it looks pretty, that's good, but the content is only relevant to Fedora developers. I'm interested in the GNOME/Wayland test day and I'm interested in Adam Williamson,

Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Zachary Snyder
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Máirín Duffy > wrote: > > > On 08/26/2014 04:17 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: > >> Mo is actually working on some mockups for a redesign right now, after >> a short discussion we had about this on IRC. >> We are making some progress. If it doesn't work well we could have

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 16:56 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Here is what we have right now: > > > > http://i.imgur.com/TJeZmYB.png > > Well it looks pretty, that's good, but the content is only relevant to > Fedora developers. I'm interested in the GNOME/Wayland test

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 08/26/2014 04:17 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: Mo is actually working on some mockups for a redesign right now, after a short discussion we had about this on IRC. We are making some progress. If it doesn't work well we could have Fedora Magazine as the default homepage. Here is what we have righ

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 04:22:33PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 04:12:12PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:53:01PM +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: > > > Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for > > > Fedora to encourage peo

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 04:12:12PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:53:01PM +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: > > Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for > > Fedora to encourage people to participate and contribute. But I'm not > > sure if it really work

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-26 Thread Elad Alfassa
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:53:01PM +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: >> Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for >> Fedora to encourage people to participate and contribute. But I'm not >> sure if it really works. > > The

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:53:01PM +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: > Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for > Fedora to encourage people to participate and contribute. But I'm not > sure if it really works. The web stats for Fedora Magazine show start.fpo as our top referrer

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 22:53:01 +0300, >> Elad Alfassa wrote: >> >Hello Websites and Desktop lists. >> > >> >I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the >> >default start page fo

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 22:53:01 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: Hello Websites and Desktop lists. I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox about:home page as the default starting page for the browser.

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 22:53:01 +0300, > Elad Alfassa wrote: > >Hello Websites and Desktop lists. > > > >I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the > >default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox > >about:home page

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
If you did use the default about:home this would also help support your upstream partner Mozilla who gains some revenue from search. As far as I know Fedora does not generate any revenue for upstream while distros like Ubuntu does. Obviously that revenue is really important and helps Mozilla cover

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-08-24 at 22:53 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: > Hello Websites and Desktop lists. > > I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the > default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox > about:home page as the default starting page for the browser.

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Chaoyi Zha
>default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox >about:home page as the default starting page for the browser. +1. I totally agree that start.fpo should be replaced with something a bit more modern and useful, but I don't think about:home is going to do it. IMHO, Fedora should

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread drago01
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: >> If you did use the default about:home this would also help support >> your upstream partner Mozilla who gains some revenue from search. As >> far as I know Fedora does not generate

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Elad Alfassa
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > If you did use the default about:home this would also help support > your upstream partner Mozilla who gains some revenue from search. As > far as I know Fedora does not generate any revenue for upstream while > distros like Ubuntu does.

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Robert Mayr
2014-08-24 21:53 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa : > Hello Websites and Desktop lists. > > I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the > default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox > about:home page as the default starting page for the browser. > > What do y

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Zachary Snyder
My bad. Well if we decide to keep it, the current design is not adequate, and no one has "the time/energy/will to think of / implement anything better" Id be happy to try and modernize it. On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Zachary Snyder >

Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Elad Alfassa
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote: > One thing i know #! (a Debian variant) does with their firefox is they > configure it so that it has the bookmarks bar filled with links to the > project homepage, about page, and community page. Maybe thats something we > could do as an al

Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?

2014-08-24 Thread Elad Alfassa
Hello Websites and Desktop lists. I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox about:home page as the default starting page for the browser. What do you think? Generally, the start page was designed to s