Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-14 Thread Sue Ryan
John,

Thank you for your prompt and thorough response.  You helped clarify and
validate what I thought was correct.

The company that I made reference is a BA, not a CE.  The BA does have an
employee onsite that acts as a liaison between the PEO and the company for
most of the HR functions.  This includes assisting with enrollment functions
AND, until our review, assisting employees with their health claim problems.
Since their health benefits were put up for bid, the enrollment forms
included a medical history questionnaire. This questionnaire was collected
by the liaison and forwarded to the PEO as part of the enrollment forms.
However, a copy was also maintained onsite.  The end result was that their
medical benefits changed from a self-insured GHP to a fully insured plan for
medical but their dental GHP was going to remain self-insured.

One of our recommendations to this company was to reassess, i.e., risk
assess, whether the company wanted the liaison to continue with providing
this level of assistance to its employees and thereby requiring changes to
their SPD and a greater responsibility under the Privacy Rule.  Per our
feedback, they chose not to.  Additionally, we recommended to the company
that the liaison separate the personnel file documents from any GHP
documents and to destroy the copies of the questionnaires.

As to your question, interestingly, the PEO had made no contact with this
company in regard to a BA agreement, assessing the functions the liaison was
performing, what the PEO was expecting to do as far as issuing the NPP
(since dental is still self-insured) or HIPAA training in general.

What I have found is that not everything is what you think it is when you
approach each type of entity (CE, BA, or Employer).  There are always twists
and turns and surprises that need to be considered in each particular
situation.  Sue

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Subject: Re: Self insured health plans  NPP


 Hi, Sue.

 What I meant by my comment is that a group health plan's relationship to a
 health insurance issuer and its relationship to a TPA are associated with
 radically different legal responsibilities under the Privacy Rule, even
 where the two relationships are functionally equivalent.  This is
sometimes
 disconcerting to self-insuring clients who believe that by contracting out
 functions to a TPA, they ought to be relieved of responsibilities under
the
 Privacy Rule.

 But you have raised a different fact pattern.  I take it that you are
 referring to the situation in which an employer contracts with an employee
 leasing or similar company.  In such a situation, the recipient of the
 services of the employees (your organization) is not the employer of
record,
 and the leased employees receive benefits under plans sponsored and
 maintained by the leasing company, not by the recipient of the services.

 If that is your situation, then I would agree with you that the plan
sponsor
 is not your company, but the leasing company, and the Privacy Rule burdens
 fall on that company and its group health plan, not on your company.
Those
 burdens would include providing or maintaining an NPP (to the extent that
 benefits are self-insured or the PEO receives or creates PHI beyond
summary
 health or enrollment information).

 Nevertheless, I think you should think carefully about how the Privacy
Rule
 may affect your company.  Are there individuals who are employed by your
 company (not the PEO) and who deal with the PEO regarding health plan
 matters?  If so, then those individuals will be members of the health
plan's
 workforce (even though they are your employees) and will require Privacy
 Rule training, etc.

 In particular, if your company (or the PEO) sponsors an EAP, consider how
 the flow of information works from management personnel in your company to
 the EAP and back.  You will want to insure that safeguards are in place
with
 respect to the confidentiality of this information and to make sure that
you
 (or the PEO, if it is a PEO plan) obtain whatever authorizations will be
 required to monitor the satisfactory completion of treatment by an
 individual referred to EAP.

 Out of curiosity, is the PEO requiring your company to enter into a BA
 agreement with it?

 Hope this helps.
 John
 redhipaa.com (coming soon)

  John,
 
  In your explanation, you state

Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-13 Thread David Blasi
Without going into a lot of discussion about the difference between the
plan sponsor and plan administrator activities, the plan administrator
is responsible for this.  If you are also the plan administrator, than
you have both responsibilities.   Your SPD should state who is the plan
administrator for easy reference.  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/03 07:40AM 
We are an acute care hospital providing health insurance to our
employees
as a self-insured plan.  As the plan sponsor we are required to amend
our
group health plan document to comply with HIPAA.  Are we also
responsible
for drafting and providing to our employees a Notice of Privacy
Practice,
or is that the responsibility of the health plan?

Bonnie R Millman
Privacy Coordinator
Bayhealth Medical Center
640 South State Street
Dover, Delaware  19901

302-744-6728



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Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-13 Thread John J. D'Amato
Hi, David and Bonnie.

It's important to keep two terms distinct:  plan administration functions
(which is a Privacy Rule term) and plan administrator (which is an ERISA
term).

The plan administrator (which, under ERISA, is the plan sponsor unless the
plan document says otherwise) has certain reporting and disclosure functions
assigned to it by ERISA.  The plan administrator may also be (but need not
be) the named fiduciary for purposes of the claims adjudication procedures
that a group health plan is required to have under ERISA.

Plan administration functions is a poorly defined term in the Privacy
Rule.  What it appears to signify is performing those functions that make a
plan a covered entity--i.e., doing things that require working with PHI.

Is the ERISA plan administrator necessarily a person who perform plan
administration functions?

No.  So long as the ERISA plan administrator is not also the named fiduciary
for purposes of claims administration, it does not necessarily perform plan
administration functions on account of the jobs assigned to it by ERISA.
That is because the jobs assigned to it under ERISA may be performed on the
basis of summary health information received and used for plan design
purposes (permitted under the Privacy Rule) or eligibility and enrollment
information (also permitted under the Privacy Rule).

An ERISA plan administrator will perform plan administration functions,
however, where it is also the named fiduciary for claims adjudication
purposes, i.e., the person who has to receive all the PHI relevant to making
claims decisions.

In addition, where a plan is self-insured, the plan sponsor will ALWAYS be
assigned the full gamut of responsibilities under the Privacy Rule, without
regard to whether the plan sponsor contracts those functions out to a third
party.

Thus, for example, if you are a self-insured plan and you contract out
EVERYTHING to a third party administrator (TPA), you are not spared ANY of
the requirements of the Privacy Rule.  You must still prepare and distribute
an NPP to your participants and satisfy all of the Privacy Rule's
administrative requirements.

In the case of the self-insured group health plan maintained by your
hospital for its employees, all of the provisions of the Privacy Rule will
apply.

 However, your hospital and the group health plan may (and probably do) have
different compliance dates.  The compliance date for health care providers
is the first date of service after April 14, 2003.  The compliance date for
health plans (including group health plans) is April 14, 2003 for large
plans and April 14, 2004 for small plans.  A large plan is one that has
receipts (i.e., pays premiums in the case of an insured plan or provides
benefits in the case of a self-insured plan) of $5,000,000 or more annually.
A small plan is one that has annual receipts of less than $5,000,000.

Hope this helps.

John D'Amato
redHIPAA.com (coming soon)

- Original Message -
From: David Blasi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: Self insured health plans  NPP


 Without going into a lot of discussion about the difference between the
 plan sponsor and plan administrator activities, the plan administrator
 is responsible for this.  If you are also the plan administrator, than
 you have both responsibilities.   Your SPD should state who is the plan
 administrator for easy reference.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/03 07:40AM 
 We are an acute care hospital providing health insurance to our
 employees
 as a self-insured plan.  As the plan sponsor we are required to amend
 our
 group health plan document to comply with HIPAA.  Are we also
 responsible
 for drafting and providing to our employees a Notice of Privacy
 Practice,
 or is that the responsibility of the health plan?

 Bonnie R Millman
 Privacy Coordinator
 Bayhealth Medical Center
 640 South State Street
 Dover, Delaware  19901

 302-744-6728



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Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-13 Thread Sue Ryan
John,

In your explanation, you state that if you are a self-insured plan and you
contract out EVERYTHING to a third party administrator (TPA), you are not
spared ANY of the requirements of the Privacy Rule.  You must still prepare
and distribute  an NPP to your participants and satisfy all of the Privacy
Rule's
administrative requirements.

Does this apply if you have contracted out your HR function to a PEO
(Professional Employer Organ.) that includes the administratio of the
benefit plans (health  dental) and the PEO is identified as the plan
sponsor / administrator of the group health/dental plans?  Can the PEO
develop and distribute the NPP to the participants (employees)?   Thank you,
Sue

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Consultant
Hazen Group, Inc.
Phone: (315) 468-2603
Fax: (315) 487-0153
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From: John J. D'Amato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Self insured health plans  NPP


 Hi, David and Bonnie.

 It's important to keep two terms distinct:  plan administration
functions
 (which is a Privacy Rule term) and plan administrator (which is an ERISA
 term).

 The plan administrator (which, under ERISA, is the plan sponsor unless the
 plan document says otherwise) has certain reporting and disclosure
functions
 assigned to it by ERISA.  The plan administrator may also be (but need not
 be) the named fiduciary for purposes of the claims adjudication procedures
 that a group health plan is required to have under ERISA.

 Plan administration functions is a poorly defined term in the Privacy
 Rule.  What it appears to signify is performing those functions that make
a
 plan a covered entity--i.e., doing things that require working with PHI.

 Is the ERISA plan administrator necessarily a person who perform plan
 administration functions?

 No.  So long as the ERISA plan administrator is not also the named
fiduciary
 for purposes of claims administration, it does not necessarily perform
plan
 administration functions on account of the jobs assigned to it by ERISA.
 That is because the jobs assigned to it under ERISA may be performed on
the
 basis of summary health information received and used for plan design
 purposes (permitted under the Privacy Rule) or eligibility and enrollment
 information (also permitted under the Privacy Rule).

 An ERISA plan administrator will perform plan administration functions,
 however, where it is also the named fiduciary for claims adjudication
 purposes, i.e., the person who has to receive all the PHI relevant to
making
 claims decisions.

 In addition, where a plan is self-insured, the plan sponsor will ALWAYS be
 assigned the full gamut of responsibilities under the Privacy Rule,
without
 regard to whether the plan sponsor contracts those functions out to a
third
 party.

 Thus, for example, if you are a self-insured plan and you contract out
 EVERYTHING to a third party administrator (TPA), you are not spared ANY
of
 the requirements of the Privacy Rule.  You must still prepare and
distribute
 an NPP to your participants and satisfy all of the Privacy Rule's
 administrative requirements.

 In the case of the self-insured group health plan maintained by your
 hospital for its employees, all of the provisions of the Privacy Rule will
 apply.

  However, your hospital and the group health plan may (and probably do)
have
 different compliance dates.  The compliance date for health care providers
 is the first date of service after April 14, 2003.  The compliance date
for
 health plans (including group health plans) is April 14, 2003 for large
 plans and April 14, 2004 for small plans.  A large plan is one that has
 receipts (i.e., pays premiums in the case of an insured plan or provides
 benefits in the case of a self-insured plan) of $5,000,000 or more
annually.
 A small plan is one that has annual receipts of less than $5,000,000.

 Hope this helps.

 John D'Amato
 redHIPAA.com (coming soon)

 - Original Message -
 From: David Blasi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Self insured health plans  NPP


  Without going into a lot of discussion about the difference between the
  plan sponsor and plan administrator activities, the plan administrator
  is responsible for this.  If you are also the plan administrator, than
  you have both responsibilities.   Your SPD should state who is the plan
  administrator for easy reference.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/03 07:40AM 
  We are an acute care

Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-13 Thread John J. D'Amato
Hi, Sue.

What I meant by my comment is that a group health plan's relationship to a
health insurance issuer and its relationship to a TPA are associated with
radically different legal responsibilities under the Privacy Rule, even
where the two relationships are functionally equivalent.  This is sometimes
disconcerting to self-insuring clients who believe that by contracting out
functions to a TPA, they ought to be relieved of responsibilities under the
Privacy Rule.

But you have raised a different fact pattern.  I take it that you are
referring to the situation in which an employer contracts with an employee
leasing or similar company.  In such a situation, the recipient of the
services of the employees (your organization) is not the employer of record,
and the leased employees receive benefits under plans sponsored and
maintained by the leasing company, not by the recipient of the services.

If that is your situation, then I would agree with you that the plan sponsor
is not your company, but the leasing company, and the Privacy Rule burdens
fall on that company and its group health plan, not on your company.  Those
burdens would include providing or maintaining an NPP (to the extent that
benefits are self-insured or the PEO receives or creates PHI beyond summary
health or enrollment information).

Nevertheless, I think you should think carefully about how the Privacy Rule
may affect your company.  Are there individuals who are employed by your
company (not the PEO) and who deal with the PEO regarding health plan
matters?  If so, then those individuals will be members of the health plan's
workforce (even though they are your employees) and will require Privacy
Rule training, etc.

In particular, if your company (or the PEO) sponsors an EAP, consider how
the flow of information works from management personnel in your company to
the EAP and back.  You will want to insure that safeguards are in place with
respect to the confidentiality of this information and to make sure that you
(or the PEO, if it is a PEO plan) obtain whatever authorizations will be
required to monitor the satisfactory completion of treatment by an
individual referred to EAP.

Out of curiosity, is the PEO requiring your company to enter into a BA
agreement with it?

Hope this helps.
John
redhipaa.com (coming soon)

 John,

 In your explanation, you state that if you are a self-insured plan and
you
 contract out EVERYTHING to a third party administrator (TPA), you are
not
 spared ANY of the requirements of the Privacy Rule.  You must still
prepare
 and distribute  an NPP to your participants and satisfy all of the Privacy
 Rule's
 administrative requirements.

 Does this apply if you have contracted out your HR function to a PEO
 (Professional Employer Organ.) that includes the administratio of the
 benefit plans (health  dental) and the PEO is identified as the plan
 sponsor / administrator of the group health/dental plans?  Can the PEO
 develop and distribute the NPP to the participants (employees)?   Thank
you,
 Sue

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 the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and
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 original message.

 Sue Ryan, RN, MPS
 Consultant
 Hazen Group, Inc.
 Phone: (315) 468-2603
 Fax: (315) 487-0153
 - Original Message -
 From: John J. D'Amato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Self insured health plans  NPP


  Hi, David and Bonnie.
 
  It's important to keep two terms distinct:  plan administration
 functions
  (which is a Privacy Rule term) and plan administrator (which is an
ERISA
  term).
 
  The plan administrator (which, under ERISA, is the plan sponsor unless
the
  plan document says otherwise) has certain reporting and disclosure
 functions
  assigned to it by ERISA.  The plan administrator may also be (but need
not
  be) the named fiduciary for purposes of the claims adjudication
procedures
  that a group health plan is required to have under ERISA.
 
  Plan administration functions is a poorly defined term in the Privacy
  Rule.  What it appears to signify is performing those functions that
make
 a
  plan a covered entity--i.e., doing things that require working with PHI.
 
  Is the ERISA plan administrator necessarily a person who perform plan
  administration functions?
 
  No.  So long as the ERISA plan administrator is not also the named
 fiduciary
  for purposes of claims administration, it does not necessarily perform
 plan
  administration functions on account of the jobs assigned to it by ERISA.
  That is because the jobs assigned to it under ERISA may be performed on
 the
  basis of summary health information received

Re: Self insured health plans NPP

2003-03-13 Thread John J. D'Amato



Hi, John.

The way I read the Privacy Rule, a plan sponsor 
that self-insures will always bear the ultimate responsibility for complying 
with the Privacy Rule and will not be treated as functionally equivalent to a 
plan sponsor that insures benefits, even if the self-insuring plan sponsor 
contracts out all functions involving PHI.

Nevertheless, I agree with you that conduct matters 
under the Privacy Rule. All other things being equal, the actual 
compliance burdens of a plan sponsor that contracts out functions will be 
considerably less than one that performs all administration 
in-house.

Thanks for your comments.
John

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List 
  
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Self insured health plans 
   NPP
  John,Thanks for the great analysis on the 
  terminology differences between ERISA and HIPAA and the HIPAA 
  implications. I agree that self-insured health plans get stuck with all 
  the HIPAA requirements, but wonder the extent to which compliance details 
  could be jobbed out to a TPA business associate.Such health plans may 
  wish to avoid preparing and training staff on extensive policies and 
  procedures when for all practical purposes they don't see or maintain PHI 
  except enrollment data in their plan sponsor roles. The preamble to the 
  revised privacy regulations gives the plan a reduced set of requirements under 
  an "insurance contract" when the carrier performs these functions. Could 
  the same guidance apply if the TPA does all the heavy 
  lifting?Following is the language from the preamble:"Group 
  health plans, to the extent they provide health benefits only through an 
  insurance contract with a health insurance issuer or HMO and do not create, 
  receive, or maintain protected health information (except for summary 
  information or enrollment and disenrollment information), are not required to 
  comply with the requirements of §§ 164.520 or 164.530, except for the 
  documentation requirements of § 164.530(j). In addition, because the group 
  health plan does not have access to protected health information, the 
  requirements of §§ 164.524, 164.526, and 164.528 are not applicable. 
  Individuals enrolled in a group health plan that provides benefits only 
  through an insurance contract with a health insurance issuer or HMO would have 
  access to all rights provided by this regulation through the health insurance 
  issuer or HMO, because they are covered entities in their own 
  right."--John---Original message---Hi, David 
  and Bonnie.It's important to keep two terms distinct: "plan 
  administration functions"(which is a Privacy Rule term) and "plan 
  administrator" (which is an ERISAterm).The plan administrator 
  (which, under ERISA, is the plan sponsor unless theplan document says 
  otherwise) has certain reporting and disclosure functionsassigned to it by 
  ERISA. The plan administrator may also be (but need notbe) the named 
  fiduciary for purposes of the claims adjudication proceduresthat a group 
  health plan is required to have under ERISA."Plan administration 
  functions" is a poorly defined term in the PrivacyRule. What it 
  appears to signify is performing those functions that make aplan a covered 
  entity--i.e., doing things that require working with PHI.Is the ERISA 
  plan administrator necessarily a person who perform planadministration 
  functions?No. So long as the ERISA plan administrator is not 
  also the named fiduciaryfor purposes of claims administration, it does not 
  necessarily perform planadministration functions on account of the jobs 
  assigned to it by ERISA.That is because the jobs assigned to it under 
  ERISA may be performed on thebasis of summary health information received 
  and used for plan designpurposes (permitted under the Privacy Rule) or 
  eligibility and enrollmentinformation (also permitted under the Privacy 
  Rule).An ERISA plan administrator will perform plan administration 
  functions,however, where it is also the named fiduciary for claims 
  adjudicationpurposes, i.e., the person who has to receive all the PHI 
  relevant to makingclaims decisions.In addition, where a plan is 
  self-insured, the plan sponsor will ALWAYS beassigned the full gamut of 
  responsibilities under the Privacy Rule, withoutregard to whether the plan 
  sponsor contracts those functions out to a thirdparty.Thus, for 
  example, if you are a self-insured plan and you contract outEVERYTHING to 
  a third party administrator ("TPA"), you are not spared ANY ofthe 
  requirements of the Privacy Rule. You must still prepare and 
  distributean NPP to your participants and satisfy all of the Privacy 
  Rule'sadministrative requirements.In the case of the self-insured 
  group health plan maintained by yourhospital for its employees, all of the 
  pro