Windows Title Bar
I'd like to be able to exactly specify the title that appears on the console title bar (Windows environment of course). Current the application uses the URL that is being got but I'd like to specify it myself. Is there a way to do this now or does this have to be an enhancement? Something like ... wget --title=News Server #1 http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html So that News Server #1 appears as the console title rather than the URL (or its possible redirect). -- Derek (skype: derek.j.parnell) Melbourne, Australia Down with mediocracy! 18/04/2006 4:57:08 PM
Re: Windows Title Bar
Derek Parnell wrote: I'd like to be able to exactly specify the title that appears on the console title bar (Windows environment of course). Current the application uses the URL that is being got but I'd like to specify it myself. Is there a way to do this now or does this have to be an enhancement? Something like ... wget --title=News Server #1 http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html So that News Server #1 appears as the console title rather than the URL (or its possible redirect). I think the standard Windows console application (cmd.exe) always changes its title somehow to reflect which command is currently executing. An alternative would be to download the free console window replacement (called Console) from SourceForge: http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/console/Console2_demo_015.zip It allows you to have multiple tabs, with a console window in each tab, and you can rename each tab in the Edit menu. So you could have inidividual tabs called News Server #1, News Server #2, etc., and run the appropriate wget command within each tab. Or, you could hide the tabs completely (in the View menu) to have just a single console window, and set its title permanently to News Server #1, by changing the text Debug console to News Server #1 within the file console.xml. Hope this helps. Regards, Jonny
Re: Windows Title Bar
www.mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something like ... wget --title=News Server #1 http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html So that News Server #1 appears as the console title rather than the URL (or its possible redirect). I think the standard Windows console application (cmd.exe) always changes its title somehow to reflect which command is currently executing. Wget has code that changes the console title (ws_changetitle in mswindows.c), which is what Derek is probably referring to. Changing console title was IMHO a mistaken feature to implement in the first place, but the original Windows port had it and, not being a Windows user myself, I didn't want to remove it later. If we allowed such an option, it should probably be named --console-title or even --windows-console-title rather than the generic --title. It might include substitutions like %(url) so that the user could specify different strings that still contained the current URL. Anyway, adding further customizations to an already questionnable feature is IMHO not a very good idea.
RE: Windows Title Bar
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Anyway, adding further customizations to an already questionnable feature is IMHO not a very good idea. Perhaps Derek would be happy if there were a way to turn off this questionable feature. Tony
Re: wget 1.10.x: New option --random to randomize the dns result
[ Moving the discussion to the Wget mailing list. Jerry's patch implements a --random option that shuffles the list of addresses returned by getaddrinfo. ] Jerry Lundström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A user scenario could be that wget with ipv6 enabled always picks a broken website since RFC 3484 deside that it should sort IPs in the way it does. Not really -- Wget (stably) sorts the address list to prefer IPv4 addresses. This can be influenced using the --prefer-family option. Even if that were the case, Wget should be perfectly able to connect to the next host in the address list, so the error would be non-fatal, only incurring a small delay. It is fatal to automated script to always pick the broken mirror. It is wrong to fix this by: a) introducing randomness, b) requiring user intervention (how many users will even be aware of this option?), and c) *still* allowing the broken mirror to be chosen by the said randomness if the user is unlucky. Also, as mirror manager you might get 1/2 overloaded servers since the sort function is the way it is. I don't think Wget is the most popular user agent around, and even if it were, the option wouldn't be on by default. Because of that, implementing this option would not affect mirror server loads. Do you mean that the first address in the list is malfunctioning? Shouldn't Wget then fall back to the next one? If one of the addresses is malfunctioning, even with --random you could still get that address, right? I don't see this behavior at all, if the first address returns 404/403 I was talking about connection errors, not 404/403. Why would a mirror which is in DNS return 40x? That kind of error should be fixed on the server side, not by hacking Wget.
Re: Windows Title Bar
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: www.mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something like ... wget --title=News Server #1 http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html So that News Server #1 appears as the console title rather than the URL (or its possible redirect). I think the standard Windows console application (cmd.exe) always changes its title somehow to reflect which command is currently executing. Wget has code that changes the console title (ws_changetitle in mswindows.c), which is what Derek is probably referring to. Changing console title was IMHO a mistaken feature to implement in the first place I agree. In the case of Windows, I believe that no console application should alter the window title, as such applications will overwrite the title which was specified at the start of a command script. Having said that, even if wget did not alter the window title, the Windows console (cmd.exe) would automatically append the wget command line to its window title, if wget was executed directly from the command line. If wget was executed from within a script, then the script name would be appended to the console window title. This is the (annoying, IMHO) behaviour of the Windows console, which is why I gave Derek the option of trying a different console completely - one where he had more control over the window title. but the original Windows port had it and, not being a Windows user myself, I didn't want to remove it later. If we allowed such an option, it should probably be named --console-title or even --windows-console-title rather than the generic --title. It might include substitutions like %(url) so that the user could specify different strings that still contained the current URL. Anyway, adding further customizations to an already questionnable feature is IMHO not a very good idea. Agreed also. If the user wants to change the window title in Windows, then they should write a command script such as (referring to Derek's original example): @echo off title News Server #1 echo Downloading latest news... echo. wget http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html Regards, Jonny
Re: Windows Title Bar
www.mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Changing console title was IMHO a mistaken feature to implement in the first place I agree. In the case of Windows, I believe that no console application should alter the window title, as such applications will overwrite the title which was specified at the start of a command script. Having said that, even if wget did not alter the window title, the Windows console (cmd.exe) would automatically append the wget command line to its window title, if wget was executed directly from the command line. The idea behind the feature is that you can see which URL is *currently* being downloaded (you can specify several). That's somewhat different than just seeing the command line. I still consider it a mistake, though.
Re: Windows Title Bar
Hi, I'm using start [1]. That way I can specify the title, have it running in the background and adjust priority and stuff. If you want to use it in a batch file you can specify /wait. [Derek already got this, forgot to cc the list] TT [1] builtin command. Useable from cmd.exe or batch files. START [title] [/Dpath] [/I] [/MIN] [/MAX] [/SEPARATE | /SHARED] [/LOW | /NORMAL | /HIGH | /REALTIME | /ABOVENORMAL | /BELOWNORMAL] [/WAIT] [/B] [command/program] [parameters] Derek Parnell wrote: I'd like to be able to exactly specify the title that appears on the console title bar (Windows environment of course). Current the application uses the URL that is being got but I'd like to specify it myself. Is there a way to do this now or does this have to be an enhancement? Something like ... wget --title=News Server #1 http://www.etc.com/latest_news.html So that News Server #1 appears as the console title rather than the URL (or its possible redirect).
RE: Windows Title Bar
From: Hrvoje Niksic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The idea behind the feature is that you can see which URL is *currently* being downloaded (you can specify several). That's somewhat different than just seeing the command line. I still consider it a mistake, though. I like it, for long/slow downloads the tooltip (float your mouse over closed window) beats opening the window (if logging to stdout) or reloading the log file (if used). I understand why you don't like it, but personally I don't think it should be removed, even if only to default=off, as at least two different windows-code contributors did in the past (if I remember correctly). I suppose a question of personal taste, as many other (stupid) religious wars... anybody remembers the weeks of hate-posts in comp.unix about display-or-not-display current working directory in the xterm title bar somewhere around the mid-nineties ? I seldom laughed as much, it was WAY better than vi vs. emacs :-) Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A. www.previnet.it -- Heiko Herold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +39-041-5907073 / +39-041-5917073 ph -- +39-041-5907472 / +39-041-5917472 fax
Re: Windows Title Bar
Herold Heiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Hrvoje Niksic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The idea behind the feature is that you can see which URL is *currently* being downloaded (you can specify several). That's somewhat different than just seeing the command line. I still consider it a mistake, though. I like it, for long/slow downloads the tooltip (float your mouse over closed window) beats opening the window (if logging to stdout) or reloading the log file (if used). I understand why you don't like it, but personally I don't think it should be removed, I suspected that some users have grown to like it. Plus, no one has ever complained, at least until now. even if only to default=off, as at least two different windows-code contributors did in the past (if I remember correctly). I suppose a question of personal taste, as many other (stupid) religious wars... anybody remembers the weeks of hate-posts in comp.unix about display-or-not-display current working directory in the xterm title bar somewhere around the mid-nineties ? I seldom laughed as much, it was WAY better than vi vs. emacs :-) I don't think I ever read comp.unix. Now I see I've been missing out. :-)
