Re: No more dev change posts to wget-patches?

2007-07-17 Thread Micah Cowan
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Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> I would like for devs to be able to avoid the hassle of posting
>> non-trivial changes they make to the wget-patches list. To my mind,
>> there are two ways of accomplishing this:
>>
>> 1. Make wget-patches a list _only_ for submitting patches for
>> consideration by devs, no longer with the additional purpose of
>> communicating changes from the devs to the users.
> 
> I don't think wget-patches was ever meant for communicating changes
> from the developers to the users.  The main wget list was supposed to
> be used for that.  As far as I'm aware, wget-patches was always a list
> meant for receiving patches (and possibly tracking them).
> 
>> If using wget-patches to communicate changes that have been made is
>> in fact still a useful thing, then option #2 would be best. However,
>> it's not clear to me that a significant number of people are
>> actually reading wget-patches for this purpose, in which case any
>> that do want to know about such changes are probably better off
>> subscribing to wget-notify to see them, and I should employ option
>> #1.
> 
> I think I agree with your reasoning.

Well, cool.

In that case, I think we will "exercise option #1" and discontinue the
practice of announcing changes (other than in the form of NEWS/Release
Notes at time of release) to the wget and/or wget-patches lists. As it
happens, there have already been several changes (such as the switch to
GPLv3) which have made it into the current trunk, but which have not had
associated announcements (I figured, if we decided such announcements
were still necessary, I could announce them retroactively! :) ).

There could still be some utility to having a trunk- and
release-branch-only commit notifications list, as I'm sure there are
people who may be interested in changes as they are happening, but not
in each piddling little code change as it's being written; but as far as
I'm concerned, it's easier just to let such people subscribe to
wget-notify and filter out the bug updates, and anything going to
/{tags,branches}/bugs/*.

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Re: No more dev change posts to wget-patches?

2007-07-17 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like for devs to be able to avoid the hassle of posting
> non-trivial changes they make to the wget-patches list. To my mind,
> there are two ways of accomplishing this:
>
> 1. Make wget-patches a list _only_ for submitting patches for
> consideration by devs, no longer with the additional purpose of
> communicating changes from the devs to the users.

I don't think wget-patches was ever meant for communicating changes
from the developers to the users.  The main wget list was supposed to
be used for that.  As far as I'm aware, wget-patches was always a list
meant for receiving patches (and possibly tracking them).

> If using wget-patches to communicate changes that have been made is
> in fact still a useful thing, then option #2 would be best. However,
> it's not clear to me that a significant number of people are
> actually reading wget-patches for this purpose, in which case any
> that do want to know about such changes are probably better off
> subscribing to wget-notify to see them, and I should employ option
> #1.

I think I agree with your reasoning.


No more dev change posts to wget-patches?

2007-07-09 Thread Micah Cowan
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I would like for devs to be able to avoid the hassle of posting
non-trivial changes they make to the wget-patches list. To my mind,
there are two ways of accomplishing this:

1. Make wget-patches a list _only_ for submitting patches for
consideration by devs, no longer with the additional purpose of
communicating changes from the devs to the users.

2. Have svnmailer post any changes made to trunk or to release branches
to wget-patches automatically. This means such announcements will no
longer be limited to trivial changes.

Note that I've asked dotsrc.org to implement the same non-subscriber
authentication measures that are currently employed for the main wget
list (as previously discussed), so hopefully the level of spam seen on
wget-patches will be dramatically decreased.

If using wget-patches to communicate changes that have been made is in
fact still a useful thing, then option #2 would be best. However, it's
not clear to me that a significant number of people are actually reading
wget-patches for this purpose, in which case any that do want to know
about such changes are probably better off subscribing to wget-notify to
see them, and I should employ option #1.

Input welcome. :)

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