Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Alan Thomas wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Honestly, Java would be a great language for what wget does. Perhaps, but not for where wget is used: on numerous platforms as a stand-alone downloadable tool, including on embedded and small-CPU devices. Environments

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I vote we stick with C. Java is slower and more prone to environmental problems. not really. because of its JIT compiler, Java is often as fast as C/C++, and sometimes even

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Mauro Tortonesi
On Friday 30 November 2007 14:48:07 David Ginger wrote: what do you think? Python. i was asking what you guys think of my write a prototype using a dynamic language then incrementally rewrite everything in C proposal, and not trying to start yet another programming language flame war ;-)

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Mauro Tortonesi
faster. Not if you count startup time, which is crucial for a program like Wget. Memory use is also incomparable. right. i was not suggesting to implement wget2 in Java, anyway ;-) but we could definitely make good use of dynamic languages such as Ruby (my personal favorite) or Python

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Mauro Tortonesi wrote: not really. because of its JIT compiler, Java is often as fast as C/C++, and sometimes even significantly faster. And GCJ can be asked to compile Java to native machine code too. I think Java per se would be OK as a programming language if it

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Mauro Tortonesi
On Friday 30 November 2007 03:29:05 Josh Williams wrote: On 11/29/07, Alan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Honestly, Java would be a great language for what wget does. Lots of built-in support for web stuff. However, I was kidding about that. wget has a

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread David Ginger
, Java is often as fast as C/C++, and sometimes even significantly faster. Not if you count startup time, which is crucial for a program like Wget. Memory use is also incomparable. right. i was not suggesting to implement wget2 in Java, anyway ;-) but we could definitely make good use

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I vote we stick with C. Java is slower and more prone to environmental problems. not really. because of its JIT compiler, Java is often as fast as C/C++, and sometimes even significantly faster. Not if you count startup time, which is crucial for a

Re: wget2

2007-11-30 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Mauro Tortonesi wrote: not really. because of its JIT compiler, Java is often as fast as C/C++, and sometimes even significantly faster. And GCJ can be asked to compile Java to native machine

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Thomas wrote: What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter will not be controversial. :) Java is not likely. The most likely language is probably still C, especially as that's where our scant human resource assets

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread David Ginger
On Friday 30 November 2007 00:02:25 Micah Cowan wrote: Alan Thomas wrote: What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter will not be controversial. :) Java is not likely. The most likely language is probably still C, especially as that's where our scant human

wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Alan Thomas
What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter will not be controversial. :) Alan

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Tony Godshall
On Nov 29, 2007 3:48 PM, Alan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter will not be controversial. :) Troll ;-)

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Tony Godshall
On Nov 29, 2007 4:02 PM, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Thomas wrote: What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter will not be controversial. :) Java is not likely. The most likely language is probably

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Alan has prior history on this list. Check the archives: yeah, I remember him. And is it just me, or does it seem that something's going to go down tonight with wget 2? ;-)

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Alan Thomas
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Honestly, Java would be a great language for what wget does. Lots of built-in support for web stuff. However, I was kidding about that. wget has a ton of great functionality, and I am a reformed C/C++ programmer (or a recent Java convert). But I love using

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
to re-read some of the current Wget code tonight and start playing around with my own attempts of a wget2. I think we should simplify the name for this release to something like the `fetch` command (which is available, btw ;-).

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Williams wrote: On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Alan has prior history on this list. Check the archives: yeah, I remember him. And is it just me, or does it seem that something's going to go down tonight with wget 2?

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Godshall wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 4:02 PM, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Thomas wrote: What is wget2? Any plans to move to Java? (Of course, the latter

Re: wget2

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/29/07, Alan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Honestly, Java would be a great language for what wget does. Lots of built-in support for web stuff. However, I was kidding about that. wget has a ton of great functionality, and I am a reformed C/C++