RE: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-02 Thread Tony Lewis
Micah Cowan wrote: Keeping a single Wget and using runtime libraries (which we were terming plugins) was actually the original concept (there's mention of this in the first post of this thread, actually); the issue is that there are core bits of functionality (such as the multi-stream

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-02 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Lewis wrote: Micah Cowan wrote: Keeping a single Wget and using runtime libraries (which we were terming plugins) was actually the original concept (there's mention of this in the first post of this thread, actually); the issue is that

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-02 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Micah Cowan wrote: Tony Lewis wrote: Perhaps both versions can include multi-threaded support in their core version, but the lite version would never invoke multi-threading. I mentioned this in the first post as well. The main problem I

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-02 Thread L Walsh
Micah Cowan wrote: I'm not sure what you mean about the linux thing; there are many instances of runtime loadable modules on Linux. dlopen() and friends are the standard way of doing this on any Unix kernel flavor. I _thought_ so, but when I asked a distro why they didn't use

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-02 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 L Walsh wrote: Micah Cowan wrote: I'm not sure what you mean about the linux thing; there are many instances of runtime loadable modules on Linux. dlopen() and friends are the standard way of doing this on any Unix kernel flavor. I

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-01 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/31/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: On 10/30/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: Perhaps the little wget could be called wg.

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-01 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 L Walsh wrote: Honest -- I hadn't read all the threads before my post... Great ideas Micah! :-) On the idea of 2 wgets -- there is a clever way to get by with 1. Put the optional functionality into separate run-time loadable files. SGI's

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-11-01 Thread L Walsh
Honest -- I hadn't read all the threads before my post... Great ideas Micah! :-) On the idea of 2 wgets -- there is a clever way to get by with 1. Put the optional functionality into separate run-time loadable files. SGI's Unix (and MS Windows) do this. The small wget then checks to see which

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-31 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/30/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: Perhaps the little wget could be called wg. A quick google and wikipedia search shows no real namespace collisions. To reduce confusion/upgrade problems, I would think

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-30 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/26/07, Josh Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/26/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, of course, when I say there would be two Wgets, what I really mean by that is that the more exotic-featured one would be something else entirely than a Wget, and would have a separate

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-30 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: Perhaps the little wget could be called wg. A quick google and wikipedia search shows no real namespace collisions. To reduce confusion/upgrade problems, I would think we would want to ensure that the traditional/little Wget

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-30 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Daniel Stenberg wrote: I guess I'm not the man to ask nor comment this a lot, but look what I found: http://www.mail-archive.com/wget@sunsite.dk/msg01129.html I've always thought and I still believe that wget's power and most appreciated

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-30 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Josh Williams wrote: Although the code might suck for those trying to read it, I think it could be very great with a little regular maintenance. Oh, I think it's probably already earned a reputation for greatness at this point. But yeah, it

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-27 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Micah Cowan wrote: The obvious solution to that is to use c-ares, which does exactly that: handle DNS queries asynchronously. Actually, I didn't know this until just now, but c-ares was split off from ares to meet the needs of the curl developers. :) We needed an asynch

Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-26 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 With talk of supporting multiple simultaneous connections in a next-generation version of Wget, various things have been tumbling around in my mind. First off is that I would not wish to do such a thing with threads. Threads introduce too many

Re: Thoughts on Wget 1.x, 2.0 (*LONG!*)

2007-10-26 Thread Josh Williams
On 10/26/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, of course, when I say there would be two Wgets, what I really mean by that is that the more exotic-featured one would be something else entirely than a Wget, and would have a separate name. I think the idea of having two Wgets is good. I