Re: [whatwg] Dynamic content accessibility in HTML today

2006-08-23 Thread James Graham
Matthew Raymond wrote: Show me a spec that says that in a normative way. It is merely a best practice. Class names, in general, are meaningless and meaningful class names should not be part of the core specification. The reason that semantic class names are best practice is because class

[whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn
There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I couldn't find one on the web forms 2.0 spec, but something in that line is already there, then I'm sorry, and you can ignore this mail. Regards, Martijn

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:44:37 +0700, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I couldn't find one on the web forms 2.0 spec, but something in that line is already there, then I'm sorry,

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread James Graham
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:44:37 +0700, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I couldn't find one on the web forms 2.0 spec, but something in that line is already

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:51:25 +0700, James Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I couldn't find one on the web forms 2.0 spec, but something in that line is already there, then I'm sorry,

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread James Graham
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:51:25 +0700, James Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I couldn't find one on the web forms 2.0 spec, but something in that line is

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread David Håsäther
On 8/23/06, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/23/06, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:44:37 +0200, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times I have to select in which country I live in. Wouldn't a input type=country widget be useful here? I

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Lachlan Hunt
David Håsäther wrote: But what if you use a browser with an old list, and your contry isn't listed. Or are you proposing that browsers download a list every time? Many modern browsers already periodically check for updates. Such lists could be downloaded like any other update, as required.

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread David Håsäther
On 8/23/06, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/23/06, David Håsäther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the browser should be able to keep up with the current list of countries, shouldn't it? It's not like it is something that is changing every minute. But what if you use a browser with

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:24:52 +0700, David Håsäther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if you use a browser with an old list, and your contry isn't listed. Or are you proposing that browsers download a list every time? That could happen nowadays also, that a country isn't listed in the

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn
On 8/23/06, Stewart Brodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if you use a browser with an old list, and your contry isn't listed. Or are you proposing that browsers download a list every time? That could happen nowadays also, that a country isn't listed in the select control. Indeed, I

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:36:44 +0200, Martijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can have a select list and an input control at the same time, not? See Lachlan Hunt's suggestion elsewhere in this thread, he uses: input type=text name=country list=country-list select name=country-list

[whatwg] Workflow and web applications

2006-08-23 Thread Francisco Monteiro
How do you get workflow in a Web Application using only Web Browser technology, Microsoft I think is the only company which will bring a workflow to the masses, Using a combination of Dojo widgets we can achieve something very similar see this URL

Re: [whatwg] Workflow and web applications

2006-08-23 Thread Dean Edwards
On 23/08/06, Francisco Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get workflow in a Web Application using only Web Browser technology, Microsoft I think is the only company which will bring a workflow to the masses, Using a combination of Dojo widgets we can achieve something very similar see

[whatwg] Some comments on server-sent events

2006-08-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
* The event-source element has no DOM interface while it has some attributes that probably warrant one. * The specification doesn't define when the onevent event handler is invoked nor when the event event is dispatched. They are only defined. It's also unclear which interface they implement, et

Re: [whatwg] Web Forms 2.0 is now a W3C Working Draft

2006-08-23 Thread Jens Meiert
Slightly off-topic - what I like most is this ultra-sensitive and tactful for example the activation code for a nuclear weapon [1] Impressive. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/web-forms-2/#the-autocomplete -- Jens Meiert http://meiert.com/ Webdesign mit CSS (O'Reilly, German)

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Aug 23, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Dean Edwards wrote: On 23/08/06, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:02:24 +0200, Martijn ... I'm sure there is an official list out there (United Nations?), with all the countries in the world. What happens when a web developer

Re: [whatwg] [wf2] Filtering datalist with pattern

2006-08-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Matthew Raymond wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: The WF2 spec does not say anything about filtering autocomplete lists on pattern and Opera 9 does not do it. However, autocomplete entries that would fail form validation are not particularly useful. I suggest saying

Re: [whatwg] input type=country?

2006-08-23 Thread Matthew Raymond
Martijn wrote: On 8/23/06, David Håsäther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if you use a browser with an old list, and your contry isn't listed. Or are you proposing that browsers download a list every time? That could happen nowadays also, that a country isn't listed in the select control.

Re: [whatwg] [wf2] Filtering datalist with pattern

2006-08-23 Thread Matthew Raymond
Ian Hickson wrote: Could you give an example of this? It seems like the common cases, like picking named values, would be handled by label= vs value=: 1:input type=number name=gauge list=gauges min=0 step=any datalist id=gauges option label=Z value=220 option label=N

Re: [whatwg] [wf2] Filtering datalist with pattern

2006-08-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Matthew Raymond wrote: Yeah, I suppose that would be fine, except for extremely rare cases where the value absolutely has to be outside the pattern. The following don't have fixed-length numeric values, for instance: | datalist id=math | option label=i