Re: [whatwg] , , , ; Re: Presentational elements in Web Applications 1.0

2007-11-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: ... On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: ... Authors should use presentational markup whenever there is no available semantic markup for the relevant meaning, or when they are providing authoring facilities for people who cannot be expe

Re: [whatwg] SQL API and Transactions

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Scott Hess wrote: > On Oct 31, 2007 5:20 PM, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Scott Hess wrote: > > > > > > var success = true; > > > > > > db.transaction(function (t) { > > > t.executeSql('insert into x values (?)', [y]); > > > db.transaction(

Re: [whatwg] SRC Vs. HREF

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Eugene T.S. Wong wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:00:21 -0800, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:19:22 +0600, Sander Tekelenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Just a thought: perhaps applicable elements (those with a non-empty

Re: [whatwg] Menus, fallback, and backwards compatibility: ideas wanted

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote: > >> > >> Authors can only suggest presentation, in the end the *user* decides > >> on it. That's the essence of the Web. Thus we should not be thinking > >> merely about what authors want, but at least as much, and probably > >> more, about what use

Re: [whatwg] Menus, fallback, and backwards compatibility: ideas wanted

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote: > At 01:21 + UTC, on 2006-01-09, Ian Hickson wrote: > >> > >> I constantly see friends, family, clients, strangers, colleagues > >> struggle to figure out how to navigate through sites they don't know > >> yet. > > > > Well sure, I struggle throug

Re: [whatwg] The element and "display: meta"

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
As a general rule, the 'display: meta' discussion belongs in the CSS group's mailing list, not in the WHATWG mailing list. Having said that: On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote: > > > > The problem is that has throughly proven that there is little > > demand for such usability featur

Re: [whatwg] SQL API and Transactions

2007-11-01 Thread Aaron Boodman
On 11/1/07, Scott Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. Is this because we're allowing for what SQLite calls BEGIN > DEFERRED, rather than requiring BEGIN IMMEDIATE? [I'm basing this on > error code 5.] In that case, yes, the above won't work. I'd like to > argue that BEGIN IMMEDIATE should be

Re: [whatwg] SQL API and Transactions

2007-11-01 Thread Scott Hess
On Oct 31, 2007 5:20 PM, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Scott Hess wrote: > > I think one could work around this within the current spec something > > like: > > > > var success = true; > > > > db.transaction(function (t) { > > t.executeSql('insert into x values (?)'

Re: [whatwg] Use cases for data templates?

2007-11-01 Thread Keryx Web
Apologies, but bump! Keryx Web skrev: Henri Sivonen skrev: * What's the use case for data templates? It is hard to review them without knowing what they are for. Conjecture-based comments/questions follow. I am also very interested in this question. I think there is a tendency to includ

Re: [whatwg] , , , ; Re: Presentational elements in Web Applications 1.0

2007-11-01 Thread Keryx Web
Ian Hickson is reading his mail so fast this almost feels like IM ;-) Why is inappropriate? According to HTML5, it's exactly the element you want, in fact. a) To my linguistic senses that's not a paragraph b) I've seen several people use the div-element (like it or not). Should all their wor

Re: [whatwg] , , , ; Re: Presentational elements in Web Applications 1.0

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Keryx Web wrote: > > I use it sometimes for a very small form, where I think or is > inappropriate and is overkill. As in > > > > Username: > > > >Password: > > > Why is inappropriate? According to HTML5, it's exactly the element you want

Re: [whatwg] , , , ; Re: Presentational elements in Web Applications 1.0

2007-11-01 Thread Keryx Web
Krzysztof Żelechowski skrev: It would also clean up the current situation where the strictness of the BODY element is meaningless because you can wrap all content in a DIV element to make it strict. I use it sometimes for a very small form, where I think or is inappropriate and is overkill