Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
In short, you should mark functions and constant parameters with VAR as well. The VAR element marks its content as incidental, as opposed to elementary functions that do not need any special markup, like SPAN CLASS=melfun sin VAR alpha;/VAR /SPAN or dVAR x/VAR sup2; = 2 VAR x/VAR dVAR

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Keryx Web
Ian Hickson skrev: The spec itself has little annotation boxes on the left hand side that documents where implementations stand, sort-of. There's also this wiki page: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Implementations_in_Web_browsers There is also this wiki page:

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Daniel Cater
2008/9/20 Daniel Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... It wasn't backed out, just disabled by default for Firefox 3. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415168. It can be re-enabled by setting browser.send_pings to false in about:config. Daniel. Obviously I meant true, not false. The

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Julian Reschke
Keryx Web wrote: ... BTW, Gecko had an implementation of the ping attribute they backed out due to spec changes. Is that part of the spec stable enough for them to start working on again? ... That part of the spec is subject of a long discussion thread and (as far as I can tell) has no WG

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Keryx Web wrote: BTW, Gecko had an implementation of the ping attribute they backed out due to spec changes. Is that part of the spec stable enough for them to start working on again? I'm not aware of any outstanding technical feedback on the issue (though not

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Julian Reschke
Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Keryx Web wrote: BTW, Gecko had an implementation of the ping attribute they backed out due to spec changes. Is that part of the spec stable enough for them to start working on again? I'm not aware of any outstanding technical feedback on the issue

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 will be ready in 2022

2008-09-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Julian Reschke wrote: There aren't any changes planned; it's as stable as any part of HTML5 can get without any implementations locking it down. It could still change in response to implementation feedback though. Does that include the possibility of it getting

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In short, you should mark functions and constant parameters with VAR as well. The spec says that var represents a variable. To mark non-variables with var is a misuse of markup; it's like surrounding computer

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's already ongoing work to allow MathML and SVG vocabularies to be expressed in the text/html serialization of HTML5. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's already ongoing work to allow MathML and SVG vocabularies to be expressed in

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Edward Z. Yang
Ozob the Great wrote: Then var steps on MathML's toes: It duplicates functionality. Not necessarily; a program variable should certainly not be marked up with MathML.

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Garrett Smith
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ozob the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Edward Z. Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Then var steps on MathML's toes: It duplicates functionality. Not necessarily; a program variable should certainly not be marked up with MathML. Conceded. I believe that in a mathematical

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Garrett Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ozob the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would