Re: [whatwg] H.264-in- vs plugin APIs

2009-06-16 Thread Maik Merten
Hi Chris, I provide an additional comparison at http://people.xiph.org/~maikmerten/youtube/ using different content. This doesn't qualify as "more movement/action" (it's hard to get free HD samples of such content in good quality), but content like the one I used is common nonetheless on community

Re: [whatwg] consideration

2009-06-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:51:05 +0100, Aryeh Gregor wrote: is a very poor solution, and would be too. You should use graceful degradation/progressive enhancement instead (in both cases). Graceful degradation is not necessarily possible with JavaScript. For instance, consider a real-time

Re: [whatwg] DOMTokenList is unordered but yet requires sorting

2009-06-16 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: The complexity of using a set implemented as hash table is quadratic in the number of elements because of hash collisions. Removing duplicates from a list of length N using an auxiliary set is average-case O(N) because insertion and

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-16 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Media queries can be done the same way as for images. Similarly, the server can choose to serve a localized version of any resource whatsoever. These customizations should not be put into VIDEO because their scope is wider. IMHO, Chris

[whatwg] "Fullscreenable" attribute.

2009-06-16 Thread Alpha Omega
I think it would be useful to add "fullscreenable" (or more refined name) attribute to arbitrary element, so users could be able to full-screen DOM subtrees, that document author marked as "fullscreenable". Usage: User choses area that he wants to fullscreen, peforms UA-specific action there("go t

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-16 Thread David Singer
At 18:12 +0200 16/06/09, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: The first video source that can be played wins. You cannot provide alternative versions for different languages or resolutions in one VIDEO element. Chris but there are media queries, and I have posted a couple of times that we should consi

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-16 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Kristof Zelechovski wrote: > The first video source that can be played wins. You cannot provide > alternative versions for different languages or resolutions in one VIDEO > element. If the browser decides that a video is too high resolution and cannot be played on this system, then why can't it f

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-16 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
The first video source that can be played wins. You cannot provide alternative versions for different languages or resolutions in one VIDEO element. Chris

Re: [whatwg] consideration

2009-06-16 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 13:26 -0700 schrieb Thomas Powell: > 2) Body Usage > > > > Warning: Styles required for correct rendering > HTML is first, and foremost, a semantic language. Why should presentational information affect the semantics ? Also, several further questions: * How

Re: [whatwg] consideration

2009-06-16 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kornel Lesinski wrote: > is a very poor solution, and would be too. You should > use graceful degradation/progressive enhancement instead (in both cases). Graceful degradation is not necessarily possible with JavaScript. For instance, consider a real-time game w

Re: [whatwg] Unifying DOMTokenList with DOM 3 Core's DOMStringList?

2009-06-16 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:45:02 +0200, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:25:03 +0200, Adam Roben wrote: >>> DOM 3 Core defines the DOMStringList interface [1], [...] >> I don't think anybody actually implements this interface though or is >> planning to. >

Re: [whatwg] and

2009-06-16 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Two questions. > > 1) What is the difference between and in the spec?  The > wording is quite different, but seem to say basically the same thing: "plugin > data". is not necessari