OK and for clarity's sake I'll again repeat framesets don't solve the
navigation problem, they just make it easier to solve than any other
available proved solution, and this wee problem is that browsers own
bookmarks, database users own database table rows, so usually you shouldn't
bookmark
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Sep 3, 2009, at 00:39, Ian Hickson wrote:
2. Its element must not be set to display of 'none' (and therefore
must not be part of fallback content that's not triggered yet).
This is definitely a bug; the fallback handling is done in a
On 9 Oct 2009, at 09:18, Ian Hickson wrote:
For example, the W3C copy of HTML5 says:
h1HTML5/h1
h2A vocabulary and associated APIs for HTML and XHTML/h2
h2Editor's Draft 9 October 2009/h2
...
h2Abstract/h2
...which is what it would be interpreted as. This is what is meant:
I would not be opposed to changing the spec to include enabling a port's
message queue when addEventListener(message) is invoked.
I'm reluctant to make addEventListener() do magic.
we have two choices:
- extend addEventListener
- fix the Shared Worker example on the whatwg site to call
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:28:46 -0400, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
There was also some discussion of what to do about preventing a plugin
instantiating. It seems to me that authors can do that by not creating
the
object element ahead of time.
And, if it's desired to specify the object
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:10:35 +0200, Michael A. Puls II
shadow2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:28:46 -0400, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
There was also some discussion of what to do about preventing a plugin
instantiating. It seems to me that authors can do that by not
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Nelson Menezes
flying.mushr...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, there is a reason why AJAX has become so popular over the
past few years: it solves the specific UI-reset issue that is inherent
in full-page refreshes.
I'm trying to think what a solution to this
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:19:04 -0400, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:10:35 +0200, Michael A. Puls II
shadow2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:28:46 -0400, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
There was also some discussion of what to do about preventing a
Aryeh Gregor schrieb:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Nelson Menezes
flying.mushr...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, there is a reason why AJAX has become so popular over the
past few years: it solves the specific UI-reset issue that is inherent
in full-page refreshes.
I'm trying to think what
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
Having gone back and forth with Robert a bit: I was able to recall the whys
of a particular issue
that could be handled in this version of the spec, regarding compositing.
As far as I can tell; the area (width and
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Aryeh Gregor schrieb:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Nelson Menezes
flying.mushr...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, there is a reason why AJAX has become so popular over the
past few years: it solves the specific UI-reset
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Philip Taylor
excors+wha...@gmail.comexcors%2bwha...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think the spec is clear on this (at least when I last looked; not
sure if it's changed since then). Image A is infinite and filled with
transparent black, then you draw the shape onto it
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Interesting idea! Anyway it introduces some consistency problems to solve,
e.g.:
Page1.html contains:
static id=fooI eat meat/static
and links to page2.html, which contains:
static id=fooI am a vegetarian/static
So
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Interesting idea! Anyway it introduces some consistency problems to solve,
e.g.:
Page1.html contains:
static id=fooI eat meat/static
and links
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think the spec is clear on this (at least when I last looked; not
sure if it's changed since then). Image A is infinite and filled
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, script changes should persist. The problem he was
highlighting, though, was the fact that a 'site bug' like that would
be very easy to have happen accidentally. It could even go unnoticed
by the site
Rimantas,
How on Earth can you bookmark database table rows? Your database knows
nothing where its rows go, the browser does not know where does HTML
originates in: it may be DB, may be XML transformed via XSLT, may be static
files on the server.
?! In a data-driven treeview, one node
On 10/16/09 8:01 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
Windows, Opera 10 passes them all, Firefox 3.5 passes all except
'copy' (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366283), Safari 4
and Chrome 3 fail them all.
I've read that this was intentional on the part of WebKit.
(Looking at the spec
PB,
I think the point Rimantas is making is that you aren't bookmarking that
node. The fact that one node in the treeview represents one table row
leaves out the reality that the node contains a URL and that clicking on the
node simply submits a URL to your application and awaits an HTML
Mike,
I think the point Rimantas is making is that you aren't bookmarking
that node.
The fact that one node in the treeview represents one table row leaves
out the
reality that the node contains a URL and that clicking on the node simply
submits a URL to your application and awaits an HTML
Eh? He didn't say that; you're quoting me.
I did, in fact, at least I meant that.
Browsers own bookmarks, database
users own database table rows, so it must be possible in database
maintenance webapps to prevent bookmarking of elements which represent
database table rows. And again, I
Promoting this reply to top-level because I think it's crazy good.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
As well, this still doesn't answer the question of what to do with
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Gregg Tavares schrieb:
I was wondering if there as been a proposal for either an optional
argument to setInterval that makes it only callback if the window is visible
OR maybe a window.setRenderInterval.
Here's the issue
Rimantas
Eh? He didn't say that; you're quoting me.
I did, in fact, at least I meant that.
I wrote browsers own bookmarks, database users own database table
rows, so usually you shouldn't bookmark database table rows, and much
follows from that, therefore saying server issues don't bear
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
Then, should we explicitly state it, so that the next versions of Chrome
and Safari
are pressured to follow?
That shouldn't be necessary. If the composition operation was limited to the
extents of the source shape, the
A few public responses to issues/questions brought up in IRC: (thanks,
Aryeh and Philip!)
How is this better than iframe seamless and a target?
=
It's significantly better in multiple ways, actually.
1. iframes, like frames before them,
Tab Atkins Jr. schrieb:
Promoting this reply to top-level because I think it's crazy good.
[...]
Let's say we add a new attribute to a, like a onlyreplace=foo,
where foo is the id of an element on the page. Or better, a
space-separated list of elements. When the user clicks such a link,
the
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Yes it looks like an AJAX killer.
Well, for a particular common, useful pattern. AJAX will still be
alive and well for solving more general classes of problems.
Actually the problem I mentioned for Aryehs first proposal
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Kartikaya Gupta wrote:
If a document is served as text/html, but contains an XML prolog with an
encoding attribute, it seems that all Firefox, Opera, and Chrome all
pick up the encoding from the prolog and use it when parsing the rest of
the document. (IE6 does not).
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
Gecko currently looks at the doctype passed to createDocument() in order to
decide what interfaces to offer on the returned document and in order to
determine if the HTMLness bit gets set.
All interfaces should be supported, per HTML5.
The bit should
On 10/16/09 4:12 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
I realise this is only one of dozens of ways that HTML is unfriendly
to security, but, well, this seems like a bad idea - if the page
thinks it is embedding, say, some flash, it seems like a pretty bad
idea to allow the (possibly untrusted) site providing
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 10/16/09 4:12 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
I realise this is only one of dozens of ways that HTML is unfriendly
to security, but, well, this seems like a bad idea - if the page
thinks it is embedding, say, some flash, it seems
Tab Atkins Jr. schrieb:
[...]
The body of page1.html could look like:
div id=pageHeaderRecipies for vegetarians/div
div id=content
h1Lovely broccoli/h1
pTake the broccoli and do the following:/p
...
/div
ul id=navigation
lispanBroccoli/span/li
lia href=page2.html
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
(Also, in your examples you probably want @onlyreplace=content
navigation, since your nav is changing from page to page as well.
Indeed. Or, maybe I'd do it slightly differently, somehow like:
ul id=navigation
lia
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ben Laurie b...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
This is, imo, a much bigger problem than that of people embedding content
from an
On 10/16/09 8:21 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
The point is that if I think I'm sourcing something safe but it can be
overridden by the MIME type, then I have a problem.
Perhaps we need an attribute on object that says to only render the
data if the server provided type and @type match? That way you
r4133 removed progress events, but the reference section still lists
the Progress Events spec as a normative reference.
-Mark
On Oct 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, mostly.
http://philip.html5.org/tests/canvas/suite/tests/index.2d.composite.uncovered.html
has relevant tests, matching what I believed the spec said - on
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
Promoting this reply to top-level because I think it's crazy good.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com
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