Re: [whatwg] localStorage feedback

2009-11-02 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: You are right that the conditions are specific, but I don't know

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread David Workman
I'm in perfect agreement regarding the rational behind having a model tag as I agree with having more semantic tags in HTML. However, I don't think a model tag would work as described as it would provide no real extra benefits and would just confuse document authors. The reason I feel this is

Re: [whatwg] Script Data tokenizer mode

2009-11-02 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
Matt Hall wrote: When the script data state was added to the tokenizer, the tree construction algorithm was updated to switch the tokenizer into this state upon finding a start tag named script while in the in head insertion mode (9.2.5.7). I see that a corresponding change was not made to 9.5

[whatwg] WebStandrd for theme

2009-11-02 Thread narendra sisodiya
Many blogging site like posterous has theme editor for their blog/website. It is a xml file looks more like html. Following file was a long file which I have edited and deleted the unnecessary content. I think this is a non-standard way to design theme. Do we have any standard to such requirement

Re: [whatwg] localStorage feedback

2009-11-02 Thread Darin Fisher
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Darin Fisher

Re: [whatwg] WebStandrd for theme

2009-11-02 Thread Nikita Popov
narendra sisodiya schrieb: Many blogging site like posterous has theme editor for their blog/website. It is a xml file looks more like html. Following file was a long file which I have edited and deleted the unnecessary content. I think this is a non-standard way to design theme. Do we have any

Re: [whatwg] WebStandrd for theme

2009-11-02 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Nikita Popov pri...@ni-po.com wrote: narendra sisodiya schrieb: Many blogging site like posterous has theme editor for their blog/website. It is a xml file looks more like html. Following file was a long file which I have edited and deleted the unnecessary

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
David, Excellent perspectives, and there are certainly format decisions that have to be made as a matter of course, just as there have been for video/. I do not agree with two of your points: * A static 3D rendering is equal to a 2D bitmap * JavaScript is necessary to display 3D content My

[whatwg] Editorial changes to spec go here?

2009-11-02 Thread Elizabeth Castro
I have a couple of editorial changes to suggest for the spec. Is this the right place to post them? thanks, Liz Elizabeth Castro my web site: http://www.elizabethcastro.com my blog: http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com

Re: [whatwg] Editorial changes to spec go here?

2009-11-02 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Elizabeth Castro lcas...@cookwood.com wrote: I have a couple of editorial changes to suggest for the spec. Is this the right place to post them? Yes, or simply submit them as bugs directly from the spec. ~TJ

[whatwg] Fwd: model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread David Workman
Oops, hit 'reply' instead of 'reply to all'. Forwarding to the list now (sorry for the duplicate, brian) Brian, I agree that a static 3d rendering isn't really equal to a 2d bitmap, but I think that the distinction will be lost on most people. As to javascript not being required? I think that

[whatwg] Contingency plans

2009-11-02 Thread Elizabeth Castro
I've noticed a couple of instances in which the spec gives the content model for a given element, like for example, the hgroup element contains one or more of h1, h2, etc., and then specifies what should happen even if the element doesn't contain what it's supposed to, as here where we

[whatwg] Typo in 4.4.10

2009-11-02 Thread Elizabeth Castro
The third to last word in this line: If node has an ancestor element that is a article element should be an Liz

[whatwg] Sectioning

2009-11-02 Thread Elizabeth Castro
In 4.4.11, it says Sectioning content elements are always considered subsections of their nearest ancestor element of sectioning content, regardless of what implied sections other headings may have created. Does that line mean that a section element is *not* a subsection of the nearest

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
David, To respond to your points: * I'm a bit confused as to what re-engineering you are referring. You say layering on top of HTML at the end of your response, but none of the example code in this thread amounts to an intrinsic change to HTML whatsoever (it actually riffs heavily on video/),

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
Additional clarification on this proposal: A model Element Never Becomes a Wafer --- Right now, if you try to act on conventional HTML elements with 3D CSS, those elements become wafers. See here: http://webkit.org/blog/386/3d-transforms/

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Simon Fraser
On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Brian Blakely wrote: Additional clarification on this proposal: A model Element Never Becomes a Wafer --- Right now, if you try to act on conventional HTML elements with 3D CSS, those elements become wafers.

Re: [whatwg] localStorage feedback

2009-11-02 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: 1a) Given a page (domain A) containing an iframe (domain B), have the outer page navigate the inner frame to about:blank. This navigation completes synchronously, and the unload handler for the iframe runs before the

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
Simon, * Though it does not have properties for clipping, Webkit's proposed implementation of 3D CSS does have them for perspective. Clipping, lighting, texture stretching and additional considerations could also be a part of that spec, but those are discussions for the CSS WG. Without a 3D

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
Spinning Cube Example Integrating 3D Media Type with Current Techniques --- (note: the only significant difference between this and currently implemented technology is the media type and additional CSS properties suited

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread CYp
* 2D bitmaps are only partially compatible with 3D CSS - they are still always flat3D object will finally be present as a 2d bitmap. there are always a process called rendering.you idea may be similar with the VRML, such as Box(x,y,z,w,l,h) but VRML still need some ActiveX to render it into

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Blakely
CYp, We are speaking about a native, semantic 3D media type. It is inherently compatible with 3D CSS and requires no additional code to display. This is very different from a 2D rendering based on 3D properties (as with VRML and canvas/). -Brian 2009/11/2 CYp tccy...@hotmail.com: * 2D

Re: [whatwg] Editorial changes to spec go here?

2009-11-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Elizabeth Castro wrote: I have a couple of editorial changes to suggest for the spec. Is this the right place to post them? Yes. If they're trivial, e.g. typos, then the easiest way is to use the submit review comments feature at the bottom of the screen when viewing the

Re: [whatwg] Contingency plans

2009-11-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Elizabeth Castro wrote: I've noticed a couple of instances in which the spec gives the content model for a given element, like for example, the hgroup element contains one or more of h1, h2, etc., and then specifies what should happen even if the element doesn't contain

Re: [whatwg] model/: A 3D Equivalent to img/

2009-11-02 Thread Simon Fraser
On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Brian Blakely wrote: * Though it does not have properties for clipping, Webkit's proposed implementation of 3D CSS does have them for perspective. Clipping, lighting, texture stretching and additional considerations could also be a part of that spec, but those are