On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:37:24 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 2/10/12 2:57 AM, Simon Pieters wrote:
1) I'm fairly certain the Images (img elements) without alt
attributes sometimes display placeholder icons in quirks mode. quirk
cannot be dropped.
...
The HTML specification
On 2/13/12, Gray Zhang otakus...@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to present an authoring difficulty with regard to showing
images on the Web with limited bandwidth, when deferring loading of certain
or all images are preferable. We have some vague ideas about what
browser/markup solutions
(12/02/13 18:33), Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
On 2/13/12, Gray Zhang otakus...@gmail.com wrote:
1. On a product description page of a shopping site, there are several
*main* pictures of the product, along with about twenty or so camera
pictures of the product taken from different
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:00:52 +0100, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu
kennyl...@csail.mit.edu wrote:
(12/02/13 18:33), Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
On 2/13/12, Gray Zhang otakus...@gmail.com wrote:
2. On an album page where hundreds of pictures are expected to be
shown,
it is often required that
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:11:21 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile
cha...@opera.com wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:00:52 +0100, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu
kennyl...@csail.mit.edu wrote:
(12/02/13 18:33), Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
On 2/13/12, Gray Zhang otakus...@gmail.com wrote:
2. On an album page
On Monday 2012-02-13 09:00 +0100, Simon Pieters wrote:
Exactly. My proposal, again, is that neither of these quirks
apply inside a shorthand.
But this is not what Gecko does.
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1339
I don't know how much content uses unitless
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:38:49 +0100, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org
wrote:
On Monday 2012-02-13 09:00 +0100, Simon Pieters wrote:
Exactly. My proposal, again, is that neither of these quirks
apply inside a shorthand.
But this is not what Gecko does.
On Monday 2012-02-13 14:03 +0100, Simon Pieters wrote:
You say that it doesn't apply for the size of 'font'. The link above uses
font:60 serif
and has a 60px font size in Firefox Nightly for me.
These also get applied:
font:101 serif
font:100 60 serif
font:100 100 serif
font:bold
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:00:52 -, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu
kennyl...@csail.mit.edu wrote:
Could you elaborate a little more on this? What is a metered connection?
Not all network links are equally expensive. I have to pay for tens of
gigabytes I send or receive over submarine or mobile wireless
On 2/13/12 3:00 AM, Simon Pieters wrote:
Exactly. My proposal, again, is that neither of these quirks apply
inside a shorthand.
But this is not what Gecko does.
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1339
As I said earlier, I have no idea what's going on with 'font'
On 2/13/12 5:33 AM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
2. On an album page where hundreds of pictures are expected to be shown,
it is often required that pictures currently in a user's screen should
appear as fast as possible. Loading of a picture outside the screen can
be
deferred to the
On 2/13/12 1:39 AM, Gray Zhang wrote:
1. the @defer attribute onimg andiframe
2. the similar @deferpolicy attribute with value a combination of visible,
network-idle and render-idle
3. a global switch as a http header or an attribute on html to switch
UAs image loading from
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:17:28 -, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
This is a difficult optimization to make. You can only do it for images
that have a height and width specified in the markup, and worse yet it
leads to pretty bad flicker as the user scrolls (because network
On 2/13/12 9:29 AM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:17:28 -, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
This is a difficult optimization to make. You can only do it for
images that have a height and width specified in the markup, and worse
yet it leads to pretty bad flicker as
On 02/10/2012 11:39 AM, brenton strine wrote:
Regarding the an input with type in the number state, the spec states
that the pattern attribute must not be specified and do[es] not
applyhttp://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/common-input-element-attributes.html#do-not-apply
to
the element. (
On 02/10/2012 05:49 AM, Ms2ger wrote:
On 02/10/2012 11:39 AM, brenton strine wrote:
Regarding the an input with type in the number state, the spec states
that the pattern attribute must not be specified and do[es] not
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Simon Pieters wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:44:22 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote:
I believe I was implementing exactly what the spec said at the time
I implemented that behavior of Validator.nu. I'm particularly
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:59:09 -, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
Well, UAs would fetch the images to be displayed first first, and then
prefetch images until they have more than a screenful of undisplayed
content loaded.
What does screenful of undisplayed content mean for some
If you're referring to a debugging tool, Chrome has
chrome:appcache-internals for this purpose. At least in dev channel it
shows the full contents of the cache, not sure whether that change has made
it to stable yet.
-Dave
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Francis Boumphrey
On 2/13/12 1:52 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
Not knowing the size makes it _impossible_ to do layout correctly.
Again, UAs would only be able to skip getting images that have
explicit height and width attributes.
On the contrary, if you've laid out two screenfuls you can guess that
anything
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:22:13 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Hm, that's an interesting point. Can we make a list of features that rely
on the character encoding and have the spec require an encoding if any of
those are used?
If the list is long or includes anything that it's
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM, divya manian divya.man...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the info I would love to see any time for my app to make the
kind of decision it should:
* connection speed: so I know how fast my resources
Anne van Kesteren, Mon Feb 13 12:02:53 PST 2012:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:46:57 +0100, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
The list starts with a and the moment you do not use UTF-8 (or UTF-16,
but you really shouldn't) you can run into problems. I wonder how
controversial it is to just require UTF-8
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:12:09 -, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On the contrary, if you've laid out two screenfuls you can guess that
anything after that will not be in the aforeoutlaid* screenfuls.
I wasn't talking about guessing at visibility. I was talking stuff like
this:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I can remove the text one at a time, if you like. Would that be
satisfactory? Or I guess I could change the spec to say that the
parser should process the characters, rather than
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Mike Samuel wrote:
The table in section 12.5 (
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/named-character-references.html
) says
GT;U+0003E
Gt;U+0226B≫
gt;U+0003E
GT U+0003E
gt U+0003E
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Henri Sivonen wrote:
Consider https://bug98654.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=77369
with the popup blocker disabled.
Chrome, Opera and IE open a new window/tab and load the Mozilla front
page into it. Firefox used to but doesn't anymore.
As far as I can
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:22:13 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I think this is like saying that requiring !DOCTYPE HTML is an undue
burden on authors...
It is. You may recall we tried really hard to make it shorter. At the end
of the day, however, !DOCTYPE HTML is the best we could do.
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