Re: [whatwg] 'datetime-local' and 'datetime' comments

2012-12-05 Thread TAMURA, Kent
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > What do you think would be a good UI? Does something that would allow > selecting a date/time in the current user's TZ and then have the > information sent to the server in UTC would be a good UI? That would probably be a reasonable fir

[whatwg] Paragraph with overlapping fallback content

2012-12-05 Thread Cory Sand
The "Paragraphs" section (3.2.5.3) gives an interesting example where paragraphs can overlap when using an element, like , that defines fallback content. To avoid the confusion of mixing the fallback paragraphs with the sentences of the surrounding paragraph in the case where the object resource is

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > > Ian, for HTML that would allow easily dealing with the load exception on > Window too. The load exception is weirder than that. It's target is different than the element that ever gets the event. Unless you mean the other exception, in which cas

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Sniffing archives

2012-12-05 Thread Gordon P. Hemsley
(It seems I somehow managed to not send this to the list the first time around. Addendum included.) On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 2012-11-29 20:25, Adam Barth wrote: >>> These are supported in Chrome. That's what

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: allow itemid to record multiple identifiers for an item

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Ed Summers wrote: > > Was the "id" itemprop you used in your examples a hypothetical property > that would need to be defined at schema.org or elsewhere, or did you > find it defined already? Hypothetical. In the schema.org vocabulary, the existing "url" property could be u

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: allow itemid to record multiple identifiers for an item

2012-12-05 Thread Ed Summers
Ian, Thanks very much for the guidance re: using and . I like both solutions quite a bit better than leaning more on itemid for this use case. Was the "id" itemprop you used in your examples a hypothetical property that would need to be defined at schema.org or elsewhere, or did you find it defi

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: > Yes, the intent is that in the the events from nodes, distributed to > insertion points should feel as if there wasn't any shadow tree around them. Right, but if is inside the shadow tree (rather than distributed into it), you do not want

Re: [whatwg] Make the files attribute of the input element writable

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Victor Costan wrote: > > There was a thread on this mailing list discussing making it possible to > set the file data behind an element. > http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2012-May/thread.html#36140 > > The thread seems to have died down due to insufficie

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-origin (partly) usable

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> It seems to me like the best solution is to have a new HTTP header, > >> with the four following values being allowed: > >> > >>Seamless-Options: allow-shrink-wrap > >>Seamless-Options: allow-styling > >>Seamless-Options: allow-shrink-

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Hayato Ito wrote: > > Some kinds of events should be always stopped at the shadow boundaries. > > See > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/shadow/index.html#events-that-are-always-stopp

[whatwg] Make the files attribute of the input element writable

2012-12-05 Thread Victor Costan
Dear WHATWG, There was a thread on this mailing list discussing making it possible to set the file data behind an element. http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2012-May/thread.html#36140 The thread seems to have died down due to insufficient applications for the proposal. I would

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-origin (partly) usable

2012-12-05 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 05.12.2012 10:45 schrieb Jonas Sicking: I hear no end of people arguing that HTTP headers are too hard for people to use. Could we make these settable through elements as well as, or instead of, using headers. I am one of those authors with limited technical background. IMHO the crucial po

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Hayato Ito wrote: > Some kinds of events should be always stopped at the shadow boundaries. > See > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/shadow/index.html#events-that-are-always-stopped It's not entirely clear to me what that means. If an ends u

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Hayato Ito
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Hayato Ito wrote: >> Shadow DOM's event retargeting in WebKit uses one Event object for >> every shadow trees. >> When crossing shadow boundaries, an Event object's target (or >> relatedTarget) is set to t

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Hayato Ito wrote: > Shadow DOM's event retargeting in WebKit uses one Event object for > every shadow trees. > When crossing shadow boundaries, an Event object's target (or > relatedTarget) is set to the appropriate one, but the event object > itself is reused. In

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Hayato Ito
Shadow DOM's event retargeting in WebKit uses one Event object for every shadow trees. When crossing shadow boundaries, an Event object's target (or relatedTarget) is set to the appropriate one, but the event object itself is reused. FYI. I've tried to implement event retargeting for seamless ifra

Re: [whatwg] seamless iframes and event propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > I've done the HTML side of this (a paragraph), but the heavy lifting for > this will be in DOM. Anne and I spoke about this earlier in #whatwg if you > want to see the discussions. Some pointers to the logs can be found in the > relevant DOM bug

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-origin (partly) usable

2012-12-05 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> On Sat, 26 May 2012, Adam Barth wrote: >>> >>> [CSP] >> >> CSP doesn't seem to include any features that would let you limit who is >> allowed to iframe you, so I don't think CSP as designed