Re: [whatwg] Form-associated elements and the parser

2013-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Now that I've implemented the new behavior in WebKit, I'm not certain completely ignoring the form element pointer is the right behavior here. That would mean that we'll allow nested form elements and isindex element will create its own form element

Re: [whatwg] Form-associated elements and the parser

2013-12-05 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Now that I've implemented the new behavior in WebKit, I'm not certain completely ignoring the form element pointer is the right behavior here. That would mean that we'll allow nested form

[whatwg] HTML and spec fragmentation (WHATWG)

2013-12-05 Thread Jens O. Meiert
A bigger issue with CSS, HTML too seems to suffer from spec fragmentation. I’m explaining my perspective on the problem and options in the following place simply because of the unique setup of the different groups working on HTML and CSS: http://meiert.com/en/blog/20131205/spec-fragmentation/ I

Re: [whatwg] Form-associated elements and the parser

2013-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: A start tag whose tag name is isindex http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/tree-construction.html#isindex Right now, form element pointer is not null in the following example, so we end up losing isindex element entirely.

Re: [whatwg] Form-associated elements and the parser

2013-12-05 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Now that I've implemented the new behavior in WebKit, I'm not certain completely ignoring the form element pointer is the

Re: [whatwg] Styling form controls (Was: Re: Forms-related feedback)

2013-12-05 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Yeah, the idea is you'd bind to the scroll box to change the whole scroll UI, but you could also then override specific pseudos of the scroll box to style subparts of the

Re: [whatwg] New social element (was: Various threads with feedback on HTML elements)

2013-12-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Bruno Racineux wrote: article is fine for a comment as syndicate-able and self-contained. Even a LOL comment. People often publish full articles that are far less useful or intelligible comment that a LOL. I just wish it was art. It's probably too late to change the

Re: [whatwg] Styling form controls (Was: Re: Forms-related feedback)

2013-12-05 Thread Kornel Lesiński
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:12:50 -, TJ VanToll tj.vant...@gmail.com wrote: The datepicker also shows the problem that using pseudo-elements as styling hooks presents. The calendars presented on mobile browsers and desktop browsers are radically different. Even if you wanted to

Re: [whatwg] Styling form controls (Was: Re: Forms-related feedback)

2013-12-05 Thread Qebui Nehebkau
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote: Maybe instead of coming up with one set of pseudo-elements that's limited to the lowest common denominator we should have multiple completely different sets of pseudo-elements for each kind of interface?

Re: [whatwg] inputmode feedback

2013-12-05 Thread Yoichi Osato
Our Google Japan members working around IME discussed about inputmode. Proposal: Remove kana, katakana and full-width-latin from inputmode attribute. Because above attributes and others are independent as others say. For web developers that want to manage IME state like native applications, the