> (A streaming browser will may hit this case after parsing the first
> radio button element in the document. Then what?)
Then browsers will follow the parsing algorithms and treat it
accordingly. For backwards compatibility and interoperability, the spec
covers how to handle all sorts of invalid i
in their mask image.
Again, consider Twitter: if they have an icon which already is a solid
shape of the correct colour (so it can be used as a colour icon, too),
why should they have to specify that colour a second time in their HTML?
You already know what the colour is, from the icon itself.
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anchors and
replaces them with their canonical spelling.
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is, on balance, worth including,
merely answering the questions you asked.)
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=... load-policy=when-needed precache
img src=photo5.jpg alt=... load-policy=when-needed precache
As they come into view, they'll become needed automatically. When they
are not needed, they get precached if that wouldn't get in the way of
other things getting loaded.
Thanks.
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Ryosuke Niwa writes:
On Mar 7, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
An international website wanting a [year] ... could internally store
all years using one particular system (say the Gregorian one), but
allow input in other systems. This could be with a free-form text
Ryosuke Niwa writes:
On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Ryosuke Niwa writes:
On Mar 7, 2014, at 3:54 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Are there many websites currently catering [for] Japanese years
by offering such an interface? If so
Ryosuke Niwa writes [re-ordered]:
On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi
wrote:
2014-02-19 11:10, Smylers wrote:
Jukka K. Korpela writes:
The point is that year numbers aren't really numbers in a
normal sense, any more than car plate numbers
can't find it in the ‘Oxford
English Dictionary’), but if it's appearance, interface, and behaviour
are identical to that of input type=number, what is the point of
distinguishing the two?
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. But there are still many situations
where this is useful, because of the context, such as the range of
possible years and the location.
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Jukka K. Korpela writes:
2014-02-19 11:10, Smylers wrote:
Jukka K. Korpela writes:
The point is that year numbers aren't really numbers in a normal
sense, any more than car plate numbers, credit card numbers,
product numbers, or social security numbers are. Surely they can
that the answer isn't “To retain compatibility
with a non-web technology which was invented before you were born.”
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further label.
Or the content of a figure may intrinsically have a title embedded in it
already, such that an additional caption would be superfluous.
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and I won't complain about it again: __
Then the validator could add a wiki entry for it.
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Robin Berjon writes:
On 04/06/2013 11:08 , Smylers wrote:
Michael[tm] Smith writes:
we receive a lot of comments and bug reports from confused/
frustrated users who are trying to use values for meta@name that
are not registered.
Could you give some examples of the kinds
that it would also be hard for authors
to do so.
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different which wouldn't nudge
developers into writing software which produces such mark-up, end-users
benefit.
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membership, so
could possibly be covered by a system such as this. But since OpenID is
an open standard which anybody can use, and isn't tied into a particular
organization, an autocomplete type specifically for OpenID URLs may be
worthwhile.
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for pattern
and inputmode, it allows anybody doing something less predictable to
still set those attributes explicitly.
The complicated cases would be possible, but wouldn't force redundancy
on the common cases.
Cheers
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Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Perhaps specifying certain autocomplete types could set defaults for
pattern and inputmode? So for this example autocomplete=cc-num
would, if pattern isn't specified, imply pattern=\d{16
locations (header and footer).
Indeed.
the question will became a simple matter of taste and habit.
It already is, with the spec as it is.
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All web+ schemes should use UTF-8 encodings were relevant.
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I think that should be where.
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authors wondering if they can extend HTML.
Currently 'HTML5 for Web Developers' has a link 'other applicable
specifications' which doesn't go anywhere:
http://developers.whatwg.org/elements.html
Cheers
Smylers
(as you demonstrate
above).
Using cite like that isn't conforming, surely?
Smylers
Ian Hickson writes:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Smylers wrote:
If it's something you'd find useful even in its incomplete state,
I can add an alternative style sheet
Yes, please.
Roger. I've added an alternative style sheet set that has a rule for
.impl sections for you. HTH.
Thank you
Ian Hickson writes:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Smylers wrote:
Hi there. Is there still a version of the HTML5 spec with
implementation-only parts highlighted?
The annotations in the spec were incomplete -- they only covered the
parts of the spec that are used to generate
authors could opt
in to the sane behaviour. And any author who complains about the
nbsp;-s not being quite as they wanted could be pointed at the pre-wrap
alternative.
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a slightly bigger change than you
intended to introduce.
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just wrote the date in text or used the time element, in order
to know whether your browser has already localized the date for you.
Which, in general, an author will have no way of knowing.
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Please could this be added to the 'idioms' section, perhaps giving
examples of when article or section might be appropriate as well as
one in which the main content is simply that which isn't in header,
aside, etc.
Thanks.
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not be a
valid e-mail address.
But if a user tries to submit something that isn't a syntactically
correct e-mail address, then he must have mis-typed his username. Using
type=email allows the browser to alert him to this, so he can fix it.
Without that, he has to wait for server-side validation.
Smylers
and views it.
3 A user doesn't wish to display some content full-screen, so ignores
any attempt by the site to become full-screen, and continues to view
it normal size.
I'm struggling to come up with a scenario in which your concerns apply.
Please could you elaborate. Thanks.
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for users than if, say,
span (or i or div or whatever) had been used instead?
Smylers
', 'The Dragon Book', 'The Red Book', or 'The White Album'. So
cite should be used for them.
But it doesn't follow that cite should be used for any other
occurrences of those terms -- the people Smith and Thomas, or a book
which just happens to be red.
Smylers
of those parts in the current context, rather than denoting them as
being important?
Smylers
://www.whatwg.org/html5#the-dd-element
I think the first class=part-of-speech should be on the i rather than
the dd (matching the other instances).
Smylers
with other changes
from HTML4).
And if authors of such pages on discovering non-title uses of cite
aren't valid then remove them, that's a win for users of non-CSS
browsers.
Smylers
.
(We've already tried the alternative, and it's worse.)
Smylers
slightly defeats
the purpose of HTML 5 introducing input type=email).
Smylers
anywhere in
the local part (even immediately after another . or before the @).
That change would appear to cover the cases in your data, but others may
have data which shows there are additional cases.
Smylers
is to have cases specifically _for_ it -- not adding
everything for which there isn't a reason against.
If textarea pattern=... wouldn't in practice be used by authors then
there's no point in adding it. If it would be used then it should be
trivial to show some places where it would be used.
Smylers
see the
a href=http://www.bbc.co.uk/terms/;standard BBC Tamp;Cs./a./small
/p
In that case the short amount of 'small print' is distinguished from the
surrounding text. Visual users can see it as such; a speaking browser
could read it out faster.
Smylers
definition (which gives weight
to the idea that the HTML 5 definition is actually what at least some
people intended in the first place, or have already been using it as).
So tweaking the definition to be more useful seems better than inventing
a new element with a better name.
Smylers
that to be rendered? The conventional presentation
would be for John Adams simply to be rendered in exactly the same way
as the surrounding text, with the reader being given no information at
all that those words are in some way special.
Smylers
to the page (as in, making progress and
seeing the indicator move involves submitting a form and displaying the
next page in the sequence), but so far as I can see from the spec
progress can be used in these situations; it isn't restricted to use
on a single page where it is updated dynamically.
Smylers
wouldn't be a call for an element which sometimes
indicates its contents should be displayed to the reader in a way which
indicates they are the title of a work and sometimes indicates its a
person's name.
Smylers
that always fits.
I hadn't yet submitted this because I first planned to try it in more
browsers. In particular I'm concerned that the child selector isn't
support in some IE versions.
Hope that helps.
Smylers
wha...@whatwg.org writes:
+ pThe Web Socket protocol is an independent TCP-based
+ protocol. It's only relationship to HTTP ...
An apostrofly has crept in there.
Smylers
Ian Hickson writes:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Smylers wrote:
For input type=week elements the spec requires:
The value attribute, if specified, must have a value that is a valid
week string.
-- http://www.whatwg.org/html5#week-state
But the spec's HTML source contains
back to the server. But
surely a UA can pick any UI they want for this -- including a text box
where the user types a comma, and a decimal point displays as a comma?
Smylers
defined
in this specification is allowed or not.
-- http://www.whatwg.org/html5#other-pragma-directives
Also, the above sentence isn't marked up as an implementation
requirement.
Smylers
-introduction-to-html
Generally will be seems to be a prediction that the spec doesn't need
to make, and could be seen as a recommendation for authors to quote
attributes even when they're unnecessary.
Could we simply omit that (finishing the sentence at keyword)?
Smylers
:/p
+
+ pIf the transformation program outputs an element in no namespace,
+ the processor must ... snip
Should this text be marked up as an implementation requirement?
Smylers
unconstrained inputs, e.g. to prevent denial of service attacks, to
guard against running out of memory, or to work around
platform-specific limitations.
-- http://www.whatwg.org/html5#conformance-requirements
Smylers
://www.whatwg.org/html5#conformance-requirements
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both of them. Conversely if they aren't
permitted then it should accept neither of them (and therefore have to
implement a 'which day is January 1st' algorithm, which I'm guessing it
currently doesn't).
Smylers
Anne van Kesteren writes:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:48:17 +0200, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com
wrote:
The spec doesn't appear to provide an algorithm for determining
which day of the week a year begins on (however I am not a browser
developer; possibly this is sufficiently straightforward
' of a week-year with 53 weeks is 53;
the 'week number of the last day' of a week-year with 52 weeks is 52.
Those things all seem much more obvious to me than working out which day
January 1st of a given year is. But as I said, I'm not a browser
developer so perhaps it's fine.
Smylers
-- for example the rules on when to use which of
strong, mark, b or providing alt text for images.
Smylers
week 0
Except that the spec has already defined that a year starts on week 1
before the above sentence.
Smylers
ledes also have a
journalistic house style which requires journalists to consistently have
the lede be the first paragraph (or whatever).
Smylers
). That suggests the small element, but that isn't quite right
either: whether a section is normative is materially relevant to the
content, not just a legal technicality.)
Smylers
currently possible with CSS. But that it exists as a plausible
choice for presenting an article demonstrates how much a matter of
styling, rather than content, this area is. And a limit of CSS should
be fixed in CSS, not HTML. (span class=lede can always be used as a
work-around.)
Smylers
, since he's never intended his tool to conform to it.
Could we make it something like implementors of tools that emit HTML or
parse Web content?
Smylers
).
There may be parts which do require Dom knowledge, but as written it
sounds like a prereq for understanding any part of the spec, and as such
may unnecessarily put people off.
Smylers
have them matching?
(I haven't searched to see if this also occurs elsewhere in the
document.)
Smylers
#serializability-of-script-execution
What's this about?
Smylers
, and Lynx all also seem to manage the aborting, but use a default
of zero instead. Firefox parses the 2 out of H2SO4, seemingly using
the first integer it can find in the attribute, so possibly isn't
special-casing +.
Smylers
categories
of handcrafted pages to gain feeds for free.
I've often encountered webpages which I wished had feeds but don't.
It's possible that an algorithm such as this would encourage more pages
to do so.
Smylers
the user is
interested in when choosing to view the page.
Magazines and the like have been using this convention for years,
without any need to explicitly define what indicates licensing
information, seemingly without any ambiguity or confusion.
Smylers
Eduard Pascual writes:
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Am Freitag, den 08.05.2009, 19:57 + schrieb Ian Hickson:
* Tara runs a video sharing web site for people who want
licensing information to be included with their videos
jgra...@opera.com writes:
Quoting Smylers smyl...@stripey.com :
James Graham writes:
hgroup affects the document structure, header does not.
That explains _how_ they are different (as does the spec), but not
_why_ it is like that.
More specifically:
* Are there significant
was separately converting pairs of line-breaks
into p tags and use of a monospaced typeface into code spans, and
the two happened to co-incide -- possibly the robot's author never even
considered it.
Smylers
or localized) the browser shows
in the page depends on which format the author used?
Smylers
Andy Mabbett writes:
In message 20090314083450.ga30...@stripey.com, Smylers
smyl...@stripey.com writes
This thread appears to be proving that dates are very complicated
and that to get them right for the general case involves lots of
subtleties,
All true.
which would be a reason
:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/infrastructure.html#valid-month-string
Which has the constraint year 0.
Smylers
that
at some point I want to debug your website, or examine how you achieved
a particular effect, and that making your span-s green will assist me
in doing that.
I don't think there's any way around this.
We don't want a way round it. It's a feature that users are in
ultimate control.
Smylers
Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
That is precisely an instance of an author setting a background
colour without a foreground colour -- specifically the author set
the background colour used on links without setting the foreground
Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that. I'm interpreting it as for
each bit of text that you cause the background colour to be set for,
also specify its foreground colour (and _vice versa_
then...)
Suppose you are reflowing some text (perhaps because you are quoting
it); words which were broken over lines in the original may want
rejoining into a single word in your version (that is, the soft hyphen
disappears); but hyphens (non-soft) between two words need to remain.
Smylers
defaults. In both case, a downloadable stylesheet would be
much appreciated.
I think a downloadable style-sheet is inevitable!
Smylers
particular target audience; why should the spec attempt to dissuade
her from doing so?
Smylers
Giovanni Campagna writes:
2009/2/8 Smylers smyl...@stripey.com
Giovanni Campagna writes:
data:text/html,stylelabel { position:fixed; top:-1em; border:1px
solid black; } label input { -moz-appearance:none;
-webkit-appearance:none; border:none; width:auto; }
input[type=submit
will 100% support it and continue to render it as it
always has been, so the 'breakage' is no way visible; if the author
chooses not to care about it then no harm is done.
Smylers
PS: Pentasis, please could you send mails that do at least one of
attributing who you're quoting or include In-Reply
Asbjørn Ulsberg writes:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:26:22 +0100, Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In printed material users are typically given no out-of-band
information about the semantics of the typesetting. However,
smaller things are less noticeable, and it's generally accepted
Felix Miata writes:
On 2008/11/24 16:19 (GMT) Smylers composed:
So I still think small works for denoting that something is of
smaller importance.
I do too, but I don't believe less importance can be the only
inference. One could simply want smaller text, without expecting
to consider. If, say, rel=up is barely used but
when it is used it's generally used correctly then it's benign, and not
causing any harm. Significant rev misuse has been identified; its
existence is confusing people into writing something they don't mean.
Smylers
ways in which hundreds of
different elements could be distributed throughout a population such
that each of them are used on more than 0.2% of pages yet the mean
elements per page is 19.
Smylers
be done with rev= can be done with rel= with
an opposite keyword, so this omission should be easy to handle.
There are some cases where that is just not possible.
Which?
Smylers
, and in the remote
shell type wget then paste in the copied link. If the link explicitly
has ?type=PDF in the URL, I get what I want; if the format is specified
out of the URL then I've just downloaded the wrong thing.
Smylers
message?
However, you can only notice this if the words have been distinguished
in some way. With b, all user-agents can choose to convey to users
that those words are special.
Smylers
versions of the report, and wished to link to both of them.
That's tricky if they have the same URL. Possibly I could do it like
you have with the wget command-line above, but that requires me knowing
which browsers my audience use and the precise syntax for them.
Smylers
from the surrounding text.
Whereas if small or b are used, all user-agents can do _something_
with them.
So I completely agree with what you say.
Smylers
a difference between the HTML version and the PDF version
of the same content (or at least what is supposed to be the same
content) -- how would I link to them?
Smylers
Elliotte Harold writes:
Smylers wrote:
That's a sometimes convenient feature for site developers, but
there's nothing you can do with content loaded from two sites you
can't do with content loaded from one.
Here's some I can think of:
* Many sites are funded by displaying
players are at a disadvantage (because they aren't
big enough to warrant doing such things themselves, and they can't
outsource things to a third party because we've blocked such services
from working).
Smylers
there from
here, even over multiple years.
The first browser to implement such a restriction would break so many
sites that its users would all switch to a browser that kept the web
working as it has till now.
And, knowing that, why would website authors bother to make the first
move?
Smylers
to forcing them to use URIs,
surely?
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