On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Justin Novosad wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Ashley Gullen wrote:
>
> > I am against this suggestion. If you are serious about performance then
> > you should use WebGL and implement your own batching system, which is
> what
> > every major 2D HTML5 ga
Problem
===
It's difficult to know when an unsupported property was set for any arbitrary
element, and manually sifting through stylesheets isn't very easy.
This makes polyfilling CSS harder than it needs to be.
Strawman
===
The endgoal is to easily get a NodeList containing elements that have
Thank you for those informative comments, Elliott.
My own tests in Firefox reflect yours and Boris's feedback. While
there is clearly overhead from non-Canvas vectors, it's pretty minor.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:37 A
I agree, that would be valuable. This proposal is coming from the
direction that sweeping out the main thread, and leaving only what is
necessary for a full Canvas experience, would benefit such
experiences.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> If you want jank-free canvas
Thank you for this information, Boris. Did you collect this with
Firefox's own devtools? I'd like to set up a full-view Canvas
document and see how it profiles.
FWIW, memory is one of several optimizations one could conjure, and it
is the culmination of these that (in concept) creates a more pol
gt;>>>> buttons and so on, which are positioned over the canvas. In particular
>>>>> text inputs are useful for things like name entry or logins even for
>>>>> games, and are typically difficult and error-prone to reimplement in only
>>>>>
Keep in mind my suggestion doesn't take away something that once
solved your use case, or even adequately upheld the philosophy of an
accessible Web. It simply doesn't try to solve it, which is a
different thing.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp
wrote:
> "Brian M. Blakely" w
Floating a concept for a document mode which eschews CSS and the DOM
to enable a more jank-free Canvas surface.
Depending on how this allows for optimization, might be used well for
games, VR, wearables, and ultra-portable or high-performance apps.
Probably most beneficial to memory usage and firs
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
&g
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > >
> > > I've added a rule to the spec that says that viewports have to be
> > > pannable so you
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Elliott Sprehn wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>
> > Realistically speaking, I don't think this will help much at all. Few
> > websites like using the default styling for form controls anyway and
> > so people would be just as unhapp
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> I've added a rule to the spec that says that viewports have to be pannable
>
so you can see all of a dialog, but I don't know how feasible that really
> is.
>
I could see implementations using shadow s to satisfy this It might
be beneficial
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2013, Brian Blakely wrote:
> >
> > 1. When a modal dialog is active, the user can still scroll the
> > underlying page.
>
> Why is that a bug?
>
By its nature, a modal view blocks interaction with
>
> > 4. Why isn't the dialog horizontally centered in the viewport? The spec
> > just mentions vertical centering and 'top'.
>
> The horizontal centering is done via the default CSS. The vertical
> centering can't be done with CSS, hence all the prose about it.
That isn't true anymore. There
Using Chrome Canary and http://demo.agektmr.com/dialog/ as a reference
implementation.
Are these spec concerns or Chromium implementation concerns? Not
completely clear on this.
1. When a modal dialog is active, the user can still scroll the
underlying page.
2. Even if the root element
"iPhone OS" introduced the switch control (http://i.imgur.com/TA79fo2.png)
in 2007. Since then, there have been many attempts to recreate this on the
Web Platform by hacking existing control types and using a lot of
meaningless markup, to varying degrees of success.
The proposal is to add a "swit
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> You are welcome to register these on the wiki and convince people to use
> them, sure. Seems like they already have solutions, though, as you show:
Would you kindly link me to the wiki?
> Sounds like this is already solved, then.
>
In a s
UI, respectively.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Brian Blakely
> wrote:
> > * Proposal
> >
> > Meta elements for defining a canonical image and color to be associated
> > with the page(s) in which they ar
* Proposal
Meta elements for defining a canonical image and color to be associated
with the page(s) in which they are included. This is intended for use by
user agents and third-party applications (such as social networks),
referred to collectively as "parsers" in this document. It is inspired b
-only, forever" and a simple API for a dev will encourage
implementation.
Cheers,
-Brian
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 J
ble
a native-like app download process that is, again, always the same on the
same UA, instead of varying from application to application.
-Brian
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Brian Blakely wrote:
> >
> > Hey Ian,
> >
> > "
ose portions of the
app that they would like to cache long-term, but suppose the user needs the
entire thing? In that case, 700MB could likely lowballing by quite a bit.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Brian Blakely wrote:
> >
> > Trigger
*Background Downloading*
*Problem*
*
*
Data transfer ends when the user closes the browser, making huge 700MB
applications impossible. How many are willing to keep a loading tab open
for half an hour or more?
The current paradigm of page loading does not work for very large
applications that nee
ing app data
> synchronization. The motivation being that there should be a
> universal way to manage the
> state of all offline capable apps at the browser/OS level.
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Brian Blakely
> wrote:
> > *The element:*
> >
> >
&g
*The element:*
*Its purpose:*
Trigger a UA-native indication to the user that the current application's
primary and entire collection of features can be used without a network
connection.
*API:*
A simple API in the form of a document.offlineCapable boolean setter/getter
would allow an applicatio
:25 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Brian Blakely wrote:
> >
> > To ensure HTML remains semantic as the web makes its gradual transition
> > to 3D rich interfaces and content, I am submitting a proposal for
> > WHATWG's consideration.
>
> I e
I can only imagine the usage of will be utilized more
productively if its intuitive purpose (arbitrary contact/postal addresses)
were its actual function. As our friends at HTML5 Doctor illustrate, it is
all too easy to jump to conclusions and use this element incorrectly.
Perhaps a element wou
eaking
totally of-the-cuff for the sake of clarity:
<face id="content-face" etc etc />
..and in CSS:
map-model: url(cube.xml) content-face stretch etc etc;
-Brian
Simon Fraser wrote:
On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Brian Blakely wrote:
> * Though it does not have properti
CYp,
We are speaking about a native, semantic 3D media type. It is
inherently compatible with 3D CSS and requires no additional code to
display. This is very different from a 2D rendering based on 3D
properties (as with VRML and ).
-Brian
2009/11/2 CYp :
> * 2D bitmaps are only partially comp
Spinning Cube Example
Integrating 3D Media Type with Current Techniques
---
(note: the only significant difference between this and
currently implemented technology is the media type
and additional CSS properties suited specifical
Simon,
* Though it does not have properties for clipping, Webkit's proposed
implementation of 3D CSS does have them for perspective. Clipping,
lighting, texture stretching and additional considerations could also
be a part of that spec, but those are discussions for the CSS WG.
Without a 3D medi
Additional clarification on this proposal:
A "model" Element Never Becomes a Wafer
---
Right now, if you try to act on conventional HTML elements with 3D
CSS, those elements become wafers.
See here: http://webkit.org/blog/386/3d-transforms/
language for the web isn't a good idea. I
> think the idea has some huge potential. I just don't think that layering it
> on top of HTML with all of it's legacy concerns and also it's document
> centric model is a good idea for the above practical concerns.
>
> Dav
David,
Excellent perspectives, and there are certainly format decisions that have
to be made as a matter of course, just as there have been for .
I do not agree with two of your points:
* A static 3D rendering is equal to a 2D bitmap
* JavaScript is necessary to display 3D content
My brief coun
er code required. This source could be in X3D format, or 3DS, MA,
etc. Whichever the vendors eventually decide to support (hopefully the same
format :)
-Brian
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Simon Fraser wrote:
> On Oct 30, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Brian Blakely wrote:
>
> To ensure HTM
Bjartur,
Great contribution, greatly appreciated. I am in partial agreement with
you, and an XHTML2 approach was certainly something I pondered. A new tag,
however, makes more sense in the HTML5 way of doing things, in which native
media types are getting their own semantic tags:
(sound), (ye
To ensure HTML remains semantic as the web makes its gradual transition to
3D rich interfaces and content, I am submitting a proposal for WHATWG's
consideration. The below examples contain HTML as it exists now, the
current working standard, and finally, a combination of both concepts.
NOTES AND
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