Re: [whatwg] dashed lines on canvas

2008-02-10 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
If this means that it would become possible to put a dashed line through text at approximately x or m height, I'm for it, too. It would make it a lot easier to build certain kinds of teaching materials for the lower primary grades, where some kids need the center line to drag their attention to t

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-16 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
> > (4) Allow the requirement of (1) to be waived, or > > commuted to the next best thing available under > RAND > > terms in the event that there are no > implementations > > not known to be encumbered. > > The codec required must be specified explicitly by > name, otherwise the > online world w

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
--- Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Joseph Daniel Zukiger wrote: > > > > Or, rather, if we knew that Apple (and others?) > would at least be > > willing to open their phones I think I said "phones" there? > >

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
--- Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to thank everyone for their continued > polite participation :) Politeness is not always the way to move a conversation forward. > [...] > 3. Are you saying something that will just be > denied, without leading us > to resolve the

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
>[...] That's all. You're all > behaving as if you had > some toys and they've been taken away, What do they say about the difference between the men and the boys? > and neither > are true. Tools, toys, what's the difference? > [...] > Ian, as editor, was asked to do this. By whom? > It

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
Seriously, Charles, what are you gaming? --- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manual, > > > Just because someone implemented it without > permission does not > > guarantee that users or other implementors of the > technology won't > > be driven to Chapter 11 by the patent owners, just > as M

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
>[...] > Indeed, the only difference is that with H.264 the > large companies in > question have _already_ taken on the risk, so there > is no additional > risk, ... for the big companies ... > whereas with Theora there are no large > distributors today and > therefore patent trolls wouldn't

Re: [whatwg] Xiph.Org Statement Regarding the HTML5 Draft and the Ogg Codec Set

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
>[...] > One minor point of clarification; "Despite the MPEG > proponents' claims > that MPEG-licensed codecs protect against > liability..." > > I don't think anyone has said this. What we have > said is that we > have already assessed the risk/benefit/cost of these > codecs and > decided the

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
> [...] including a SHOULD that we know > beforehand won't be implemented > is of no use. I disagree. It shouldn't take that much thought to understand why. A publicly acknowledged standards body should build for the ages, not for the current whims of the fiscally fat prima-donnas we call publi

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
> [...] > Objectors claim they are working towards a > resolution that defines a > MUST video format and is accepted by 'all parties'. > I don't believe that > because they know this is impossible and it WILL > affect HTML5 adoption. How could a required video format be a step forward? Unless i

Re: [whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
--- Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Daniel Zukiger wrote: > > > What guarantees do Apple, Nokia, et. al. offer > that > > their corporate-blessed containers/formats/codecs > are > > free from threat for (ergo) the rest of us? > > In the

[whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-12 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
I apologize in advance if this question has already been broached. In what I have seen of several of the ogg threads, I seem to see the question being danced around, but not directly addressed. Part one of the question: What guarantees do Apple, Nokia, et. al. offer that their corporate-blessed c