in invalid HTML since it puts sources outside
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of IE's
namespaces. It's the equivalent of DOM's .namespaceURI.
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, there is no span title=the indicated part of
+ the documentindicated part of the document/span./p/li
/ol
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the user agent must check the state of the drag-and-drop
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it prevented the extra image request from being
made.
Thanks. IIRC, IE doesn't make a request when using minimized attribute
syntax, i.e. img src (because it drops the attribute during parsing).
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it's own workers)
Worker 1-3-1
Worker 1-3-2
Worker 1-3-3
-- Worker 2 (waits for results from it's own workers)
--- Worker 2-1
--- Worker 2-2
--- Worker 2-3
-- Worker 3 (no more recursion)
Sure. The spec has an example of this (1.2.5 Delegation).
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:51:44 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:58:03 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com
wrote:
I asked Philip to provide some data about pages using empty attributes
for these:
Philip` zcorpan: http://philip.html5.org/data/empty-url
or layout thrash.
We don't have a specific API proposal to make right now, but I'll try to
get the people working on this to put forward a concrete proposal soon.
Regards,
Maciej
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be good to do so
before changing things, so we have an idea what the compat impact is. It
would also be good to document what browsers do today for all of these.
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. :-)
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Morpheus, not everyone believes what you
believe!
Morpheus: My beliefs do not require them to.
-Original Message-
From: Simon Pieters [mailto:sim...@opera.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:58 PM
To: Jonas Sicking
Cc: Nicholas Zakas; Maciej Stachowiak; whatwg@lists.whatwg.org; Aryeh
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:58:03 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
I asked Philip to provide some data about pages using empty attributes
for these:
Philip` zcorpan: http://philip.html5.org/data/empty-url-attributes.txt
Philip` zcorpan:
http://philip.html5.org/data/empty-url-link
=
attribute.
All of these would never attempt to fetch a resource if the src/href
attribute is empty (even if the current baseuri is different from the
document uri). However it would not act as if the attribute was not
set (important for script).
Does that sound right?
/ Jonas
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a data: url with the script text not work?
data: URL is prohibited per the spec (because of the same-origin
restriction) and doesn't work in Gecko or WebKit, but we've allowed data:
URLs in Opera.
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haven't tested SVG or
CSS). I think it's ok, but I'd like it specced. :-)
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.
What about URLs in CSS and SVG?
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to scriptURL instead.
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Mozilla mentioned that they recently
changed the behavior for img, so Hixie changed the spec for img.
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be available, but the others not.
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The Navigator and WorkerLocation interfaces in workers have inconsistent
naming. Please rename the Navigator interface to WorkerNavigator.
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specific problems.
BTW the current alternate proposal in the HTML Working Group is to
replace dt/dd with a fltcap element to use as the label for both
figure and details:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ChangeProposals/DdDt .
Regards,
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:02:00 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
An idea for creating events is to support [Constructor] on all event
IDLs, which makes the createEvent method unnecessary.
Maybe we could even make the arguments to the constructor be called to
initFooEvent
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:50:21 +0100, Jonathan Cook
jonathan.j5.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Simon Pieters wrote:
There's ErrorEvent.initErrorEvent, and dispatchEvent is exposed in
workers, but there's no createEvent (because there's no document). Are
there use cases for sending events in a worker
There's ErrorEvent.initErrorEvent, and dispatchEvent is exposed in
workers, but there's no createEvent (because there's no document). Are
there use cases for sending events in a worker? Should we expose
createEvent somewhere? Should we remove initErrorEvent?
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, ErrorEvent
are not in the list. Is this intentional? If they're intended to not
create interface objects, it would be clearer if the IDLs had
[NoInterfaceObject].
Should EventTarget and Event be in the list?
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.
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:05:53 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
Shouldn't setting onmessage on a Worker object enable the port message
queue?
Currently step 8 of the run a worker algorithm enables the port
message queue for the WorkerGlobalObjectScope side, but it is never
Web Workers says
If it failed to parse, then throw a SyntaxError exception and abort all
these steps.
Shouldn't that be SYNTAX_ERR exception?
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' by the time of
the test.
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error/span./p
+
+pspanInsert an HTML element/span for the token./p
+
+pPop that codeinput/code element off the spanstack of
+open elements/span./p
+
+ /dd
+
s/input/form/
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headaches
for authors) to support all event handlers everywhere.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-index.html#events-0
(and the tables referenced from there) is useful for finding out which
events are fired where.
HTH,
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things, like HTML
and images.
embed also allows images (including SVG with scripts), at least in
browsers.
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fallback! I command you!);
};
/script
One or both of the data and type attributes must be present. says the
spec.
embed doesn't seem to have the same requirement for src and type. (Also
compare with img, iframe, video...)
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changes so that header and role=banner match.
Personally I think 3) is *not* workable.
Fair enough. Done #1.
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answered: What are you
asking for?
I would presume that Peter is asking for frameset, frame and noframes to
be part of the set of conforming elements in HTML. Correct, Peter?
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that it is probably an authoring error if the author
included a type=file control on a page with the default enctype,
Should thus validators flag this as an error?
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, then
authors will stop depending on load whether or not we get consensus for
altering the spec.
Rob
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.
...but my original comment still stands:
s/DOCTPE/DOCTYPE/
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, it would still be
annoying to jump back and forth between the two documents. (I guess the
same applies to Web Database and the others, too.)
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:47:10 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-workers/current-work/#interface-objects-and-constructors
seems to say that there must be no interface object for Worker and
SharedWorker, but the constructors are to be available, which
-specific/span: use
'margin-right' for rtl elements */
+details dd, figure dd { margin-left: 0; }
This should be LTR-specific, too.
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of the
+ ceremony./p
+
+ prelt;!DOCTPE Htmlgt;
s/DOCTPE/DOCTYPE/
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WorkerUtils implement WindowTimers;
should be
WorkerUtils implements WindowTimers;
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making data: urls is an ok solution,
unless the usecases are compelling enough that we think it's something
that people will do a lot.
Yeah, I think supporting data: URLs would be good.
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are in fact the
same object, unless I'm misunderstanding things.
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to
utf-8 elsewhere.
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misunderstood what we're asking for here. We're not
asking for cross-domain workers, we're asking for workers that are in the
same page.
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in another encoding, then they would notice by
seeing that their text looks like garbage. Browsers could also log
messages to their error consoles about encoding declarations declaring
non-utf-8 and/or sequences of bytes that are not valid utf-8.
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Worker('?');
worker.onmessage = function(e) { alert(e.data) }
/script
!--
*/
//--
...but this is a bit too hacky for my taste.
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DedicatedWorkerGlobalScope and SharedWorkerGlobalScope probably shouldn't
have [Supplemental].
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a SECURITY_ERR exception.)
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interface/span is not
expected to affect the size of the rendering; controls are expected
to be overlaid with the page content without causing any layout
changes, and are expected to disappear when the user does not need
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max=2000-12-31gt;/pre
+
+ /div
s/2000/1999/
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:52:18 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
s/2000/1999/
Since when?
Oops. I thought the 21st century started 2000, but it seems I was wrong.
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means \n
for the content model purposes.
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replaceChild). This is a better technique because noscript is unaware of
whether the script was successful, and also noscript is not supported in
XHTML.
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,
and this added cost of learning should not be ignored either.
IE7 (and IE8 in quirks and compat view modes) and earlier versions of
Firefox (and earlier versions of WebKit?) exposed the full path, so Web
developers already had to hack out a substring to get the file name.
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to the incompatible behavior is not
less of a problem.
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fail to see why changing Gecko's behavior
would introduce a privacy leak.
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student and I; he's been working on form
validation in
WebKit) encountered this recently, we assumed it was a typo, and I used
the
snazzy little file a bug from directly on this page UI on the spec to
note
it.
PK
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in all
other languages.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#glossary
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for doing so.
However, making the ARIA root always be the document element seems simpler
to implement and specify, so maybe the ARIA spec could be changed here?
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is it that is not compatible with which browser?
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title=context.font/code would
+ evaluate to the string code
title=italicnbsp;12pxnbsp;Unknownnbsp;Font,nbsp;sans-serif/code.
I think CSSOM says font names should be quoted.
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; shouldn't that be
display:none instead?)
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a
container and codec match.
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type
Global non-boolean attributes that are safe to leave unquoted:
dir
tabindex
All other attributes can take one of the special characters [\s'] in
the value, or the empty string as the value.
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element/span, the attributes must
+ instead return the empty string on getting and do nothing on
+ setting./p
I think it is now undefined what document.bgColor does when document.body
*is* a frameset.
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implemented for compliance with CSS2 and HTML4 when Niels Leenheer wrote a
Selectors test suite back in 2006.
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id=i3item 3/li/ol
/ol
In particular, many UA remove arbitrary id attributes.
Best regards,
Ryosuke Niwa
rn...@google.com
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is a for the Text/CDATASection handling.
No opinion on this, honestly.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:31:54 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:34:38 +0200, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
The current text suggests that a user-agent may choose to support only
the HTML syntax (not XHTML) but should still return true for
hasFeature(XHTML
contenteditable
draggable
...and maybe from the obsolete elements section:
behavior
direction
truespeed
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is encouraged,
user-agents may choose to support only one of them:
http://www.whatwg.org/html5#conformance-requirements
Maybe the spec should remove these feature strings altogether and
encourage authors to use more accurate methods of detecting support.
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is not supported then you get a blank box.
If you want to offer multiple formats to cater to
disparate UAs, give video some source children rather than @src.
It will try each source in turn until it finds one it can play.
Yep.
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there are
other interfaces or members that are currently lacking.
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. I don't know what's simpler to implement, but the spec now
matches at least Opera, Firefox and Safari (haven't tested IE).
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or MathML elements, so you probably want to
conditionally call getElementsByTagNameNS based on e.g. the root element's
namespaceURI rather than the document's HTMLness.
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elements, are expected to be
+ collapsed to zero./p
h4Alignment/h4
Please change spanthe body element/span to codebody/code
elements.
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:09:56 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Please change spanthe body element/span to codebody/code
elements.
Really? Do you have a test case demonstrating this?
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/124
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in the less popular UA and that UA vendor has to reverse
engineer the popular UA and implement the same order.
The above has happened with the DOM Core .attributes attribute, IIRC.
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, or significant would greatly
assist browsers in determining the correct behavior.
Is there a problem with always falling back to the poster image and just play
the video (full-screen or on-top) when the user indicates he wants to see the
video?
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On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:59:03 +0200, Benjamin M. Schwartz
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
Simon Pieters wrote:
Is there a problem with always falling back to the poster image and just
play the video (full-screen or on-top) when the user indicates he wants
to see the video?
If every menu
On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:59:01 +0200, Benjamin M. Schwartz
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
Simon Pieters wrote:
If there is a controls attribute or if scripting is disabled, show
controls, else use author-provided scripted button (if any) to play the
video.
Consider a webpage in which a side
RDFa to the same extent that XHTML 1.1 supports microdata (in
both cases, it would work but is not valid).
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=com.damowmow.descOrange male.
/di
...
The styling problem is discussed at http://forums.whatwg.org/viewtopic.php?t=47
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On Fri, 08 May 2009 00:58:21 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
Actually I believe it would be:
+--HTML 5
+--A new era of loveliness
+--Navigation
This surprised me when I used implicit sections and just wrapped
articles around news items (which were h3s). I expected
of HTMLImageElement, HTMLCanvasElement, or
HTMLVideoElement. If the image is of the wrong type or null, the implementation must
raise a TYPE_MISMATCH_ERR exception.
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dialog and say that dl is appropriate for
marking up dialogue.
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the spec should say that DTs in DLs should be unique within the DL.
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the ? And the same for logo also.
See
http://www.whatwg.org/images/logo
http://www.whatwg.org/images/icon
If anyone would like to make a version of these files with transparency,
I
would be happy to update the image used on the site.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Apr/0042.html
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tag as fallback, which is not helpful for a user with a
browser that supports the video tag but doesn't have the right codec installed.
If you want to, though, you can use scripting to detect that the video couldn't
be played and replace the element with its contents.
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that should return a Date? Any suggestions for what I need to do in
Web DOM Core?
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a number of milliseconds.
typedef unsigned long long DOMTimeStamp;
...and then refers to WebIDL for what that means to ECMAScript.
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is intended to be useful to make subheaders not appear in the
ToC, the move from
h1Foo/h1
h2Bar/h2
to
header
h1Foo/h1
h2Bar/h2
/header
shouldn't, IMHO, result in ugly borders that everyone has to nuke (compare with
img border=0).
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:22:59 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Simon Pieters wrote:
Color attributes in HTML have special processing. [...]
It seems that some pages use three-digit notation and expect it to work
as in CSS. I've made the algorithm do that and I've
a lot like Opera's also. It's in
no way trivial to implement either, but it sounds like it is at least
widely adopted.
/ Jens
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into each algorithm that's adding stuff to the tree instead (in
due course).
Thanks for the feedback,
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still have such a method
internally if they need it.
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