On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
there's nothing that really requires that the
user agent even support arrow keys, let alone that they work in a
particular way.
I believe MicroB, Fennec, and probably Mobile Safari will tend to
treat form controls as very
Boris wrote:
I'm not sure where this list of (extension,type) pairs comes from,
but it looks like the plug-in provides it somehow (possibly even in that
form, looking at
http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/plugin/base/src/nsPluginsDirUtils.h#53).
plugins register tripples:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Jens Alfkes...@google.com wrote:
The first statement implies that a web-app on your platform cannot implement
the algorithm you recommend.
Sure it can. The user is effectively idle, in that they are not using
your web application period.
That they might be
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Jens Alfkes...@google.com wrote:
That is not what idle means to an instant-messaging/presence service like
AIM or Jabber. The idle state means the user is not at the device, to the
best of its knowledge. If the user is capable of receiving messages but does
not
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Bijubijumaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Cant we wait some more time before we change current behavior in Mozilla.
I believe once IE8 is popular enough the firmware people will make
change in their code and they will also test it in Firefox.
Err, you're missing a key
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Bijubijumaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Also it wont solve all the path problem with Firefox. As many intranet
sites expect to get user chosen network path. Which I believe IE8 is
still providing, and Firefox is not.
OK, for this I'd like to have real data. Can you
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Nils Dagsson
Moskoppnils-dagsson-mosk...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net wrote:
Also, we could settle this. A sizable non-exhaustive list of problematic
sites could end this discussion soon. Just sayin'.
Let's get biblical. Precisely how sizable is sufficient for us
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Aryeh Gregorsimetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
For that matter, it might be nice if some patterns just refused to let
you enter anything that doesn't meet the pattern -- but not all,
clearly. E.g., [ -~]* to restrict to ASCII would really like to
just not let you
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Max Romantschukm...@romantschuk.fi wrote:
I think it's important not to forget that a great deal of web applications
are internal applications not exposed to the Internet. In an environment
like that performance issues with evaluating regexps against a large
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:07 PM, timelesstimel...@gmail.com wrote:
Si no halas ustedes Español podria visitar al: http://translate.google.com/t
How embarrassing, I fixed the typo elsewhere:
Si no hablas ustedes Español podria visitar al: http://translate.google.com/t
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Upon further consideration I've renamed getStorageUpdates() to
yieldForStorageUpdates().
If getStorageUpdates() actually returned how *many* updates there
were, it could be a vaguely useful name.
If the answer is 0, then my
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Michael Nordmanmicha...@google.com wrote:
Tim Berners-Lee seems to think this could be a valid use of URI references.
http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fragment.html
The significance of the fragment identifier is a function of the MIME type
of the object
Are
Jonas Sicking wrote:
The only site where I can
remember seeing content negotiation actually used is on w3.org
fwiw, MXR (and even LXR) uses some content negotiation, and it
generally magically works. OTOH it's transparent, so you shouldn't
see it :).
But yes, I'd say that content negotiation
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Drew Wilsonatwil...@google.com wrote:
What I'd like, as a user, is some way to pin selected apps to run in the
background - whether that's something I initiate through the UI myself, or
via a prompt from the application is really a matter of UX.
in my book,
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's put it another way. Of the browser vendors here:
* who supports Vorbis as a baseline codec for audio?
* who objects to Vorbis as a baseline codec for audio, and why? If
such language went into the spec, who would just
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
There are mass market products that do this. Specifically palm-pre is
OMAP3, the N810 is OMAP2. These have conventional DSPs with publicly
available toolchains.
Hrm, I worked on the n810 (nowhere near DSP, thankfully,
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, King InuYashangomp...@gmail.com wrote:
We had a vendor majority, right?
Who is we, and which vendor do you represent?
Please don't use royal we.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Kristof
Zelechovskigiecr...@stegny.2a.pl wrote:
Regarding the fear of Trojan codecs: it would help if third-party plug-ins
for codecs could be sandboxed so that they cannot have access to anything
they do not have to access in order to do their job, and only via
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
The 'week number of the last day' of a week-year with 53 weeks is 53;
the 'week number of the last day' of a week-year with 52 weeks is 52.
well... there are people who might think you could count from week 0
if weeks are
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Kristof Zelechovski
giecr...@stegny.2a.pl wrote:
Vulgar fractions should be supported in hypertext markup without recourse to
MathML. They are vulgar, after all.
Requiring the full-blown math rendering engine for everyday business
activities,
Um, HTML5
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Kristof Zelechovski
giecr...@stegny.2a.pl wrote:
Inserting a SCRIPT element is not equivalent to a server-side include. It
is more like linking to an object file. In particular, substitution macros
(e.g. CONST in BASIC) in one script do not apply other
The contacts section uses event where it meant contact
On 4/23/09, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
[bcc'ed previous participants in this discussion]
Earlier this year I asked for use cases that HTML5 did not yet cover, with
an emphasis on use cases relating to semantic microdata. I list
Personally i'd rather that a UA be able to choose to do this on its
own. I don't think it requires a change to the specification.
you're talking more about a behavior (clicking X triggers Y and Z)
than how the web page sees what happened (either way it only sees
triggers on Y and Z).
I've
2009/4/8 Jeremy Orlow jor...@google.com:
If a user is in private browsing mode typing up a message, they should
definitely not expect it to be there when they leave such a mode. If they
do expect it to be there, then they really wanted multiple profiles.
I know it's bad to make presumptions,
FWIW, iirc multiple processes from IE dates to at least IE4
The best url I can find on the subject atm is
http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/bit092098.html.
Michael Nordman micha...@google.com wrote:
There are additional constraints that haven't been mentioned yet... Plugins.
The current
sounds like a security nightmare.
we already have people complaining about reframing and spoofing and things.
Boris Zbarsky wrote:
I agree that entering a week is pretty rare, though. ;)
Henri Sivonen wrote:
Is this observation based on observing U.S. sites?
At work, we only enter weeks into our Bugzilla. Even our time tracking
system didn't ask us to enter weeks (you have to fill in a spreadsheet
of
Randy Drielinger ra...@prowebdesign.nl wrote:
With the risk of not being compliant with other OS's, but isn't using
file://localpath/real_file_name.extension (so using file://localpath/ by
default)
the solution for the original suggestion?
This ensures not breaking anything on existing
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Nathanael Ritz nathanr...@gmail.com wrote:
That makes some sense. So the UA would handle missing codec problems like
many handle missing plug-ins. Is that part of the spec already? From what I
have gathered, it seemed that everyone was/is content with the UA
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Robert O'Callahan
rob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
I don't really see a usecase for multiple priority levels. Do you have one?
i've seen a lot of places of late which have multiple videos which are
expected to play in some sort of sequence.
just saying 'autobuffer'
2009/2/11 Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org:
So, how about adding an autobuffer attribute, which instructs the browser
that the user
will probably play the video and as much data as possible should be
pre-downloaded?
By default (when the attribute is not present) the browser would be
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
In practice, I think the only way to avoid this problem is for
browsers to implement content-sniffing techniques of some kind to
figure out the language, at least per field but ideally on a
word-by-word basis. If
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
No, I don't think so. Google searches based on analysis of the open web are
*not* generally more reliable than faceted searches over a reliable dataset,
and in some instances are less reliable.
dunno. i use google
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Cameron McCormack c...@mcc.id.au wrote:
The IDL currently says:
interface HTMLFormElement … {
attribute DOMString accept-charset;
…
};
I assume that should be acceptCharset? If you are actually wanting a
property on an ES host object named
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
That handles some cases, but not others --- e.g. text boxes that contain
program code.
I run spell checkers on code blocks.
the number of misspellings that could have been avoided by using them
they're
2008/12/30 Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com:
maybe we could just say that spellchecking is disabled when type is not text
(for email, uri and number you have validation) and when a pattern attribute
is specified
Personally, if I were to write Gionvanni Campagna into a multiline
text
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Alexey Proskuryakov a...@webkit.org wrote:
1. The signature of manifest is ^BOM?CACHE MANIFEST[ \t]*$. Since
arbitrary whitespace is allowed at the end, it is not possible to verify it
with a simple binary comparison, yet it unnecessarily forbids e.g. comments
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote:
It's useful for fields that contain non-textual content, e.g. product ID,
license plate number, CAPTCHA answer, etc.
Browser would mark these as misspelt, which might be confusing or at least
distracting.
this sounds
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Philipp Serafin phil...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, you could still phrase it something along the lines of The size of a
popup document's viewport SHOULD be calculated using the CSS shrink wrap
algorithm... etc etc.
as an embedder of a browser for a small device, i
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Martin Atkins m...@degeneration.co.uk wrote:
I think this makes a good case for not allowing any site to create
browser-modal UI. Could browsers handle confirm() and friends in such a way
that they only block the contents of the tab, not the whole browser?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Martin Atkins m...@degeneration.co.uk wrote:
An alternative from Opera:
The confirm dialog is whole-browser-modal, but it has a checkbox captioned
Stop executing scripts on this page which allows you to forcefully kill
off a script that's repeatedly
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Tommy Thorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This matches Internet Explorer and Opera, but not Firefox and Safari. Then
again, it looks like Firefox and Safari ignore all /br tags.
if we're both able to get away with ignoring all /br tags, wouldn't
the ideal forward
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Aaron Leventhal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe there is a deeper problem if copy paste doesn't work right because
of IDs?
Or maybe there should be a node.getDescendantById() method?
maybe, but not with that name.
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,480,000 for
i don't really want to spend a lot of time with this, but any feature
authors are provided will be abused.
among my list of things which i wish were never let out of pandora's
box are defining accesskeys (instead of commands) in html, and another
which i'd hope dies on the vine is aural css.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh?! Then I understand even less what the use case is. This is something
that doesn't exist for script and i've never heard anyone ask for it
(granted, that is not proof that no one wants it).
a script can figure out where
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Samuel Santos wrote:
What about allowing the Author to change the control's locale? By doing
so, the UA can then render the button with the same locale as the
application without compromising the security.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Berners-Lee apparently when he introduced a bunch of technologies such
as HTTP, HTML FTP, IP TCIP and others and called it the World Wide Web,
closely followed by the Mosaic Web Browser[1] a direct descendant of Firefox
On 10/30/08, Eduard Pascual [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Oct 29, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Kristof Zelechovski wrote:
Declare INPUT[type=mailing-list] instead of INPUT[type=emails],
please. Type=emails is ugly and
Sounds like what you really want is an audio/video stiching api so
that you could concatenate a second sound track and achieve a smooth
transition.
On 10/23/08, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
There is no way to say loop forever
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Aaron Swartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're thinking of SNI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication
which doesn't work in IE6, IE6, or Safari, making it less than useful
for anything serious.
anything proposed today to be added would appear
You're doing dom work, the code jonas wrote reminds me of perl which
typically doesn't generate a dom and then serialize it to send out
over the wire. Among other things serializing often requires the
entire document which means you can't build and incrementally send the
document over the wire.
This of course doesn't support open link in new window/tab, download
link, bookmark link, drag copy anchor, and history coloring.
not sure if i've missed anything.
a number of these things are actually browser bugs imo, but solving
them is non trivial (if not nearly np-hard)
On 10/19/08, Kornel
On 10/3/08, Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Placeholder ... aids usability
having recently fought with some javascript which tried to enhance my
ability to enter text ('crash' in a keyword chooser using nokia's
webkit based browser on my phone), I'd like to remind people that
someone's
On 10/4/08, Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would be platform and implementation dependant. On OS X the text should
without doubt disappear on focus as that's the behavior users would expect.
On Linux or Windows they might expect something different. There's no
reason the
Is vbscript defined to have the same dom bindings as jscript?
On 10/2/08, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
INPUT. CHECKED = checked
is equivalent to
INPUT. SETATTRIBUTE checked, checked
as of MSIE7.
Chris
My unit test:
SET L5ELEMS = ME. ELEMENTS
SET A1C = L5ELEMS.
Technically there was a time/way to tell gecko not to support frames.
There was a time when i played w/ that support while we were
spidering. Browser.frames.enabled / default / boolean / true.
It seems to work as of a nightly from aug 13 (iirc it requires a
restart. I'd suggest using a distinct
For some strange definition of lie. You're defining a lie as ok and
saying it isn't lying.
i still don't see why this is valuable. Can you provide use cases
where you won't harm my users? This probably means setting up a web
page which explains what you're doing and how you're going to fall
back
On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:14, timeless wrote:
We'd probably be forced to lie and claim every codec imaginable.
[including ogg (or rather vorbis, theora, speex, ...), as these are
all imaginable]
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would the situation be any
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Greg Houston
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to propose a disabled attribute for iframes.
things like this inevitably are used for copy protection.
and they aren't going to work quite the way you expect on mobile devices
(we're probably going to have a
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you control the software used to read the data, it doesn't matter
what the data format is.
i kinda object to this. By this argument, video isn't necessary
because youtube controlled the software (flash) used to read
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kristof Zelechovski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only the user that actually encounters a Web site deficiency should report
it to the creator/owner (assuming they provided a reverse link).
Otherwise such a report should be ignored as a supposition.
mass complaints
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The spec requires the localName-is-real behaviour now (by virtue of not
requiring it to do anything else). It seems the compat issue isn't very
serious, based on the bug cited above having not changed in over a year,
and the
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Tim Starling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or have I been shot down already?
I'd like to shoot you down.
javascript should not be required to play media. sniffing apps are
historically bad, and shouldn't be encouraged.
there should be no harm in using multiple
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Kristof Zelechovski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have considered inline response. I have two options: do it by hand (I am
rather busy) and do it for every reply (which makes business people angry).
err. i didn't realize you were using outlook.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Channy Yun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The national PKI system has own certificate issuing process to citizen with
face-to-face meeting. And it requires to submit ones client certificate
for e-government and financial transaction with digital signature per each
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Michael(tm) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I notice the docs for the icons param of the Gears createShortcut()
method describe four discrete sizes that all have the same height
and width (An object containing one or more of these named
properties: 128x128,
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ul
li
insSome list item/ins
delAnother list item/del
/li
/ul
...or:
ul
liinsSome list item/ins/li
lidelAnother list item/del/li
/ul
do you want an example showing
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 3:16 PM, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well then I guess FF2.0012 and IE 7 are not considered modern. My FF3
installation seems flaky so I can't get it to launch. Opera 9. shows only
the leaf but FF2 shows the whole path.
good guess.
On Jan 25, 2008 2:48 PM, Mikko Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's wise to always trying to minimize the battery usage in a battery
operated device. However, if the device is already using wireless or
wired communication for transmitting the data set it cannot just do
nothing.
from my
On 1/24/08, Mikko Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Consider a form with a file input. User selects a huge file and hits
submit. Most UAs do not display nothing but an animated throbber until
the full submit is done and the download progress bar only starts to do
anything after the full
On Jan 23, 2008 10:42 PM, David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Chris is incorrect in his assertion because clients can be
presumed to have increasing amounts of rendering power available just
to make pretty pictures.
please don't assume this. an n800 or n810 does not have much
On Nov 7, 2007 9:38 PM, Darin Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We could consider changes and new features as well, but that's even
more challenging. Maciej suggested that we dump accesskey and replace
it with something that would solve the real problem, and I think
that's also worth pursuing
On 10/19/07, Anne van Kesteren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This doesn't seem like something a typical end user would do.
the how perhaps not, but i think the goal is.
Anyway, if
you want to do it through script maybe mute function/property/something
mute/stop/pause/disable
that affects the
On 10/19/07, Anne van Kesteren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For that you need something in the browser UI. There's a large, maybe
infinite, number of ways to make audio not visible even if it's within
the DOM tree. For instance:
audio { position:absolute; left:-1000px }
I can easily have a
On 10/18/07, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would be cool is if we could detect, through tainting, the bad
codepaths. But I see no way to do that here.
could you simply require that all sql statements be of the form:
X = ? instead of X = 1
i.e., any attempt to not use parameterized
On 8/29/07, WeBMartians [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a disagreement between astronomers and historians about how to count
the years preceding year one; astronomers count the BC
years astronomically. Thus, the year before the year 1 is the year 0, and the
year preceding the latter is the
Aaron Boodman wrote:
- One major issue that we found here was that lots of existing
applications serve different resources at the same URI depending on
who is logged in. We could ask these applications to redesign so that
they don't do that, but we would prefer to not have to.
On 6/26/07,
On 6/26/07, Spartanicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Desktop client content support will determine the format most content
will be published in.
Interesting claim, however Apple so far has introduced AAC (high
quality drm-less) and MPEG4 for large audiences (OK, YouTube MPEG4 is
merely announced
On 6/25/07, Spartanicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main worry relates to the usability and accessibility of future audio
and video web content. Content including the wrapping should be free,
you don't quite mean that. if a content producer wants to make pay
content, it should be free to do
On 6/13/07, Simon Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I realised that IE7 and Opera dropped the href attribute when using the
markup a href. So I decided to test whether this happened to other
attributes as well.
The test takes a while to run. 001.htm doesn't work in Opera, and
001-opera.htm
bookmarklets are heavily used to do work based on the current document.
http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/
On 4/19/07, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it seems likely that the vast majority of non-spam e-mail messages
are sent to individuals who are known by the sender to be
fully-sighted. In that case putting up an interface for entering alt=
text, *just in case* the recipient gets
On 4/2/07, Maik Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usually consumer hardware doesn't receive feature upgrades after it
shipped,
since you're using (buying?) the n800, I wonder if you're counting it
as a consumer product.
so most of the already installed hardware base won't get an
upgrade to
On 3/22/07, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I think it's a reasonable position that the idea of going to
full screen is a user agent thing (no matter what type of UA it is,
even mobile) but that content should be able to respond appropriately
when users make that change. If
On 3/20/07, Hallvord R M Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/2007/03/14/window-opener-and-security-an-unfixable-problem
I believe you'll find that Gmail does not have this problem, because
when it uses window.open, it opens a gmail page which then triggers a
server
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