Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control

2014-01-27 Thread Yoav Weiss
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Bruno Racineux wrote: > > > On 1/26/14 3:39 PM, "Qebui Nehebkau" > wrote: > > >On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Bruno Racineux > wrote: > >> What exactly do you find misguided, can you be more specific? > > > >Basically, - and I'm trying not to over-elaborate he

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control

2014-01-26 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 1/26/14 3:39 PM, "Qebui Nehebkau" wrote: >On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >> What exactly do you find misguided, can you be more specific? > >Basically, - and I'm trying not to over-elaborate here, since my >opinion isn't really very important - I just mean that I don

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-26 Thread Qebui Nehebkau
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Bruno Racineux wrote: > What exactly do you find misguided, can you be more specific? Basically, - and I'm trying not to over-elaborate here, since my opinion isn't really very important - I just mean that I don't think there should be any guarantees about how (or

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-24 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 1/24/14 7:37 PM, "Qebui Nehebkau" wrote: >On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >> The requirement for ATs with 'hidden' is to access the structure of >>hidden >> elements. Not the presentation aspect... I am having a hard time >> translating that a resources that is "not y

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-24 Thread Qebui Nehebkau
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: > The requirement for ATs with 'hidden' is to access the structure of hidden > elements. Not the presentation aspect... I am having a hard time > translating that a resources that is "not yet needed or is no longer > needed" means that it shou

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-24 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 1/24/14 7:35 AM, "David Newton" wrote: >On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > >> On 1/23/14 9:13 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >>> Could 'resource control' be an associated spec of the 'hidden' >>>attribute? >> >> It bothers me, at first glance, to overload the attribute to mean

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-24 Thread David Newton
On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 1/23/14 9:13 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >> Could 'resource control' be an associated spec of the 'hidden' attribute? > > It bothers me, at first glance, to overload the attribute to mean different > things. I predict people will appear who

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-23 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 1/23/14 9:13 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: Then how come it is the case right now for both: Gecko's preloader never preloads s. There are various reasons for this, but the most important one is that in practice it doesn't matter for actual web pages and hence no one has bothered to write th

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-23 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: > On 1/22/14 6:07 PM, "Boris Zbarsky" wrote: >>On 1/22/14 8:14 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >>> Meanwhile, is there a way in which all vendors can prevent their >>> pre-loaders from preloading (and loading at all for that matter) any >>> >>> tha

Re: [whatwg] 'hidden' as resources control (Was: Simplified element draft)

2014-01-23 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 1/22/14 6:07 PM, "Boris Zbarsky" wrote: >On 1/22/14 8:14 PM, Bruno Racineux wrote: >> Meanwhile, is there a way in which all vendors can prevent their >> pre-loaders from preloading (and loading at all for that matter) any >> >> that has either: An html5 hidden attribute > >This is feasible.