Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-21 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Sep 20, 2008, at 01:41, Ozob the Great wrote: I am concerned about the existence of HTML5's var. This was brought to my attention during a technical debate on Wikipedia which amounted to: Where is use of var appropriate? One can use var instead of i to style a variable or placeholder

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-21 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use cases for var probably aren't strong enough to warrant its addition to HTML at this stage if it hadn't been in HTML already--you might as well use i. However, given that var has already been in HTML for a long

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-21 Thread Ozob the Great
Sorry, mail client trouble. Here is the complete message. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use cases for var probably aren't strong enough to warrant its addition to HTML at this stage if it hadn't been in HTML already--you might as well use i.

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-21 Thread Andrew Sidwell
Ozob the Great wrote: Sorry, mail client trouble. Here is the complete message. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use cases for var probably aren't strong enough to warrant its addition to HTML at this stage if it

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-21 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Andrew Sidwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Sorry, mail client trouble. Here is the complete message. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use cases for var probably

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
. Parameters in equations are incidental. Chris _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ozob the Great Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [whatwg] Can var possibly work? I am concerned about the existence of HTML5's var

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Kristof Zelechovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In short, you should mark functions and constant parameters with VAR as well. The spec says that var represents a variable. To mark non-variables with var is a misuse of markup; it's like surrounding computer

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's already ongoing work to allow MathML and SVG vocabularies to be expressed in the text/html serialization of HTML5. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's already ongoing work to allow MathML and SVG vocabularies to be expressed in

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Edward Z. Yang
Ozob the Great wrote: Then var steps on MathML's toes: It duplicates functionality. Not necessarily; a program variable should certainly not be marked up with MathML.

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Garrett Smith
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ozob the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would require duplicating a large chunk of MathML, which is undesirable. There's

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Edward Z. Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Then var steps on MathML's toes: It duplicates functionality. Not necessarily; a program variable should certainly not be marked up with MathML. Conceded. I believe that in a mathematical

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-20 Thread Ozob the Great
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Garrett Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ozob the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ozob the Great wrote: Making HTML that much richer would

[whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-19 Thread Ozob the Great
I am concerned about the existence of HTML5's var. This was brought to my attention during a technical debate on Wikipedia which amounted to: Where is use of var appropriate? The problem is that while var can be used to distinguish variables from non-variables, there are many other mathematical

Re: [whatwg] Can var possibly work?

2008-09-19 Thread Garrett Smith
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Ozob the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? It doesn't work in any browser. Be creative and use classes. .function .identifier .operator .paren .bracket You might even be able to find some microformat for that. (Microformat is becoming a bit of a