On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Every codec has the same problem;
Every codec has the same problem if you can't prove a negative. That
turns out to be hard.
--
Robert Sayre
I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.
2009/6/7 jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com:
There are concerns or issues with all of these:
a) a number of large companies are concerned about the possible
unintended entanglements of the open-source codecs; a 'deep pockets'
company deploying them may be subject to risk here. Google and other
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/7 jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com:
There are concerns or issues with all of these:
a) a number of large companies are concerned about the possible
unintended entanglements of the open-source codecs; a 'deep
On 7 Jun 2009, at 16:30, David Gerard wrote:
2009/6/7 jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com:
There are concerns or issues with all of these:
a) a number of large companies are concerned about the possible
unintended entanglements of the open-source codecs; a 'deep pockets'
company deploying them may
2009/6/7 Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com:
How is it incredible? Who has looked at the submarine patents? They by
definition are unpublished! Yes, certainly, published patents are well
researched, but this is not the objection that anyone has made to it.
It is not credible to claim
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, David Gerard wrote:
2009/6/7 Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com:
How is it incredible? Who has looked at the submarine patents? They by
definition are unpublished! Yes, certainly, published patents are well
researched, but this is not the objection that
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, King InuYashangomp...@gmail.com wrote:
First of all, what is the POINT of supporting any codec if it will cause
inconveniences to anybody (e.g. patent royalties, high licensing fees,
etc.)?
Originally Ogg support was required by HTML5, AFAIK. However, Apple
has
--- On Sun, 6/7/09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Codec mess with video and audio tags
To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:30 AM
2009/6/7 jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com:
There are concerns or issues
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Every codec has the same problem; the difference is that companies like
Apple have already taken on the patent risk with MPEG-LA licensed codecs
and are not willing to double their exposure. (Other companies like Google
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:24 PM, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
The HTML 5 specification should definitely support a codec that fulfills
the following legal criteria:
At the end of the day, the spec does not mandate vendor behavior; rather
vendor consensus informs the spec. For
Am Sonntag, den 07.06.2009, 16:37 -0700 schrieb Peter Kasting:
I do note that in a vacuum, there isn't a problem with not specifying
any codec, as IIRC no codecs are specified for the img tag and yet
practically most browsers implement a common subset and the web
basically works.
still,
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp
nils-dagsson-mosk...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net wrote:
I do note that in a vacuum, there isn't a problem with not specifying
any codec, as IIRC no codecs are
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:13 PM, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
Google, Apple, and the other naysayers for Ogg video
I think you are officially Wasting Our Time when you say something like
Google... and the other naysayers about a company that is _shipping Ogg
audio and video support
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:13 PM, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
Google, Apple, and the other naysayers for Ogg video
I think you are officially Wasting Our Time when you say something like
Google... and the
Hello,
I have been keeping track of the developments of the video and audio tag
for awhile now, and I recently noticed that there was a mailing list for
discussing the spec.
So, I wanted to put forth my comments about this mess regarding codecs I'm
seeing sprawled all over the mailing list.
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