Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-10-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Wellington Fernando de Macedo wrote: Ian, do you intend to add any other features to the first version of WebSocket? If yes, which ones? I was thinking of adding multiplexing, but after discussing this with a variety of people, I'm leaning towards leaving the protocol as

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for, WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-05 Thread Greg Wilkins
WenboZhu wrote: While the concerns on the server-side are overstated, the analogy to http is also questionable ... The current protocol, being a *scoket* layer protocol, is in principle different than http, which is strictly a L7 RPC protocol. Wenbo, TCP/IP does not map well to OSI layer

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-04 Thread Jeremy Orlow
For the record, I'm perfectly happy with WebSockets not being made any more complicated for v1 (i.e. no multi-plexing), but I don't think your arguments against it are compelling at all, so I'm going to play devils advocate: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket, transfer protocol)

2009-09-04 Thread Greg Wilkins
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: What would the API look like? It seems like it could be done transparently to the web developer. If you open 2

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-04 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: How do you envisage multiplexing working? It's not clear to me what we could do that would be easier to handle than just having the script manually do the multiplexing at the

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-04 Thread Wenbo Zhu
While the concerns on the server-side are overstated, the analogy to http is also questionable ... The current protocol, being a *scoket* layer protocol, is in principle different than http, which is strictly a L7 RPC protocol. Is there any fundamental limitation for different UI components to

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: I agree that these are very interesting features. Especially connection multiplexing is something that I think is a good idea, for

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: How do you envisage multiplexing working? It's not clear to me what we could do that would be easier to handle than just having the script manually do the multiplexing at the application layer. What would the API look like? What would the wire

[whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: I agree that these are very interesting features. Especially connection multiplexing is something that I think is a good idea, for the reasons you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread (multiple widgets on the same page). How do you envisage

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-08-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: I agree that these are very interesting features. Especially connection multiplexing is something that I think is a good idea, for the reasons you've mentioned elsewhere in this

Re: [whatwg] Feature requests in WebSocket (Was: BWTP for WebSocket transfer protocol)

2009-08-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: I agree that these are very interesting features. Especially connection multiplexing is something that I think is a good idea, for the reasons you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread