Re: [whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: I assume you meant mostly as in most of the pages are well-formed, not pages are mostly well-formed, since the latter is useless, right? I did a brief survey of obvious sites fitting those descriptions that I had in my

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-12 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: I assume you meant mostly as in most of the pages are well-formed, not pages are mostly well-formed, since the latter is useless, right? I did a brief survey of obvious sites fitting those descriptions

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 11/11/09 11:16 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: I'm pretty sure that XHR is used for screen-scraping beyond Wikipedia, Since it'd fail any time the data is not well-formed XML, I'd actually expect such usage to be rare. It's not all that common to find XHTML on the web that happens to be

[whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-11 Thread Aryeh Gregor
I already filed a bug http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8268, but figured I'd copy it here to get more discussion. Wikipedia just experimented with switching to an HTML5 doctype. A lot of user tools broke, and after two hours of investigation, we determined that the problem is

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-11 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: Since it'd fail any time the data is not well-formed XML, I'd actually expect such usage to be rare.  It's not all that common to find XHTML on the web that happens to be well-formed XML. A number of popular web apps

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 doctypes incompatible with XHR if named entities present

2009-11-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 11/11/09 11:57 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: A number of popular web apps output mostly well-formed XML, as far as I know: vBulletin, WordPress, etc. I assume you meant mostly as in most of the pages are well-formed, not pages are mostly well-formed, since the latter is useless, right? I did a